Gawddawggonnit wrote: » 1. Yes, but bales preferable. The combine losses will grow also and help with sugars. 2. No not difficult, same as grass. 3. My choice would be squarrosum so let’s deal with that...it’ll grow to about the height of your belly button in about 8weeks. Before it ‘buttons’ to flower cut and bale. It’ll grow over winter and spring if tillage man wants as a cc. Next spring there would be a massive crop on it. Tillage man could sell or use as crop mulch. 3. Clover *is* fert. All fert doesn’t have to come in a bag! 4. Clover is fert. It’s not a weed.
kowtow wrote: » I've a few acres of late sown spring barley on an outfarm which I'm counting on to provide me with just about enough straw to put under the youngest calves. There's a good chance that I'd want to reseed the barley ground (which has been barley forever, I think) and a couple of fields next to it next year in any case. At the moment - provided it rains at some point soon - it looks like we'll be making bales and cutting barley at more or less the same time over there, given that most of the silage ground is burned to a crisp and only just greening a little after first cut. We've a big stock of well rotted FYM out there as well which wants a home well before winter comes. Had been thinking of ploughing it in to some silage stubbles and setting winter barley instead of spring, with a view to an Autumn reseed next year?? Any imaginative / outlandish ideas for what we could do to make the most of the ground this year?
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » Loads of options... Do you prefer spring or Autumn reseeds?
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » Walk wbarley stubbles in a fortnight and the combine losses will be growing without even a seedbed being prepared... Local contractor has imported 5 yankee combine drivers from Wisconsin will talk with them now about cc now over a coffee. I’ve the mobile no of the man in Cooney Furlong...
Gawddawggonnit wrote: 1. Yes, but bales preferable. The combine losses will grow also and help with sugars. 2. No not difficult, same as grass. 3. My choice would be squarrosum so let’s deal with that...it’ll grow to about the height of your belly button in about 8weeks. Before it ‘buttons’ to flower cut and bale. It’ll grow over winter and spring if tillage man wants as a cc. Next spring there would be a massive crop on it. Tillage man could sell or use as crop mulch. 3. Clover *is* fert. All fert doesn’t have to come in a bag! 4. Clover is fert. It’s not a weed.
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » There’s always a risk in feeding any rich feed. Clover is no exception. It won’t do any harm to reproduction, but an overload will kill...(however it could be argued that death is counterproductive to reproduction!)
charolais0153 wrote: » Is their not something to do with oestrogen in the bales or is that only with ewes
kowtow wrote: » Could be either over there as we won't be fully stocked next year. There's a bit less pressure on machinery and labour in the Autumn.
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » I’ve just taken a call from a person accusing me of panicking farmers... There was I thinking I was being pro-active and helping find solutions. Apologies. I’ve deleted what seem to be offending posts. Will the other posters delete same please? Thanks. I’ve stayed away from the “hows the drought affecting you” thread because I think it’s pessimistic and totally lacking solutions... Jesus wept.
Gawddawggonnit wrote: I’ve just taken a call from a person accusing me of panicking farmers...
kevthegaff wrote: » Anyone feeding using a diet feeder out on the field? How do ye find the Abbey tub? Was considering one in the future
freedominacup wrote: » Panicking farmers, ah bless them, the poor lambs. Stop panicking and start putting solutions in place. I'd have to echo keepgrowing, not sure if it was this thread or the drought one where he said there's more out there than the panic merchants would have you believe. Filled most of my feed deficit today with a couple of phonecalls.
mahoney_j wrote: » F the begrudges ,some just don’t like differing opinions ....anyway those posts were very interesting and helpful I thought .im probably taking an option on 15 acres of westewolds and red clover for baling in late September .barley off Monday field disced today and seed in tomorrow .good option for tillage man as he’s putting wheat back in there in October
alps wrote: » Keep the info coming anyway FFS... Beyond culling and whole crop, slowing rotation (of what) and the fertiliser is safe I don't think convention has many more solutions... We have ground burned off and harrowed, but held off on the seed... thinking westerworlds and clover as the best DM return between here and late Spring, and reseed then..
mahoney_j wrote: Not a diet feeder but zgrazed grass beteween paddocks ,very little feed loss and working a dream so far
mf240 wrote: » It's too late. Several reports of panicking farmers getting stuck up trees and apparently there's two loose on the local motorway
kevthegaff wrote: » Ground doesn't look too burned j, how you yer side of nena
GrasstoMilk wrote: » This was my plan too Mj but talking to a rep today he told me I wouldn't get a crop by the end of October and then another one yesterday told me I'd have a crop in 10 weeks if sowed soon who do I beleive? I have land available that I can put something in, quite a sizeable amount too. The one today was saying redstart and bale it but I'm afraid of the bales going into absolute mush!
mahoney_j wrote: » I’m taking chance anyway ,tillage man confident it’ll work so I’ll take him at his word never tried or know much about redstart but I’d imagine hard to bale and bales spongy .all options been looked at atm
GrasstoMilk wrote: » I neighbour did it here last year and got on okay I think. You just can't wrap it in the field with the stalks is all. I've s friend who might sow it for me and sell me the bales. Save me all the work of sowing it
mahoney_j wrote: » That’s best solution I think and fertliser graze and bale like fook on your own land once rain comes .would grazing the redstart be better option ?
mahoney_j wrote: » Grass still growing here Kev but back to 25 kg for last week .really think having good indexes ,organic matter and keeping fertliser out is keeping the place alive .once rain arrives my place will hop .just back from in laws down ardcroney side ,now there’s some very sick looking land down there