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The biggest falls from grace.. Aung San Suu Kyi etc.

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I've been reading more about Myanmar in the news recently and just can't believe she was viewed as a sort of Mandela knowing now that she is just a shlte person.

Who else has been lauded before showing their true colours?

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TheValeyard

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Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

Yea but i wish Russell brand would **** off and die.

I have really mixed feelings on him. He's a bit of a headwreck and a pseudo intellectual. And he's annoyingly loud.
But on the other hand he beat a drug addiction, an eating disorder, a highly dysfunctional father to make something out of his life. He was also sexualy abused as a child.
It's fairly understandable that he's 'weird' and can be unlikeable, but he's had a very hard life and made a success of it. He also didn't take a penny from his divorce, and he certainly could have cashed in there for 10's of millions, so I have respect for him. Even if his comedy isn't really my thing.

In one of his earlier series he gave a homeless guy a 'hand' in the toilets until completion, despite him obviously not being gay. He's genuinely a bit mental like.

Harry Palmr

MFPM wrote: »

Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua has betrayed the people who fought along side him and those they fought for against Samoza.

Those designer glass's were his downfall.

skooterblue2

MFPM wrote: »

Your points on Mandela are valid and indeed one could go much further, however your point on Myanmar is nonsense - the response of Suu Kyi to attacks by the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army have been disproportionate and utterly over the top which has led to a huge number of casualties among innocent Rohingya, indeed her 'defense' and yours smacks of the same type of rubbish spouted by Netanyahu as his troops slaughter innocent people in Palestine.

I am not saying for a moment there are no civil liberties and rough handling by the Burmese troops. What I am saying it is not all one sided and the Bangladeshi have done something (substantial) to attract that sort of attention on themselves. I do not support Israel or Palestine. Them two bunches of lads have been hammering the crap out of each other in the middle ease since Cain killed Able and I couldnt careless.

Lorelli!

Tom Cruise on Oprah! :pac: not sure whether to laugh or cry

qwerty ui op

That cruel and heartless Kennedy fellow the US elected in the early 60's
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Dustin the sicko Hoffman

skooterblue2

Lorelli! wrote: »

Tom Cruise on Oprah! :pac: not sure whether to laugh or cry

That is just pathetic to have to watch that..... he has lost his touch and made loads of Turkeys since

[Deleted User]

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I am not saying for a moment there are no civil liberties and rough handling by the Burmese troops. What I am saying it is not all one sided and the Bangladeshi have done something (substantial) to attract that sort of attention on themselves. I do not support Israel or Palestine. Them two bunches of lads have been hammering the crap out of each other in the middle ease since Cain killed Able and I couldnt careless.

And what did thousands of civilians, including children do exactly to attract that sort of attention?
Or, in layman's terms, be murdered?

humberklog

Oscar Wilde's was pretty impressive. From pomp and privilege to poverty and ignominy.

skooterblue2

humberklog wrote: »

Oscar Wilde's was pretty impressive. From pomp

Odhinn

skooterblue2 wrote: »

need a bit of balance there.
Nelson Mandela was sentenced for organising 23 car bombs, When he was in power he sold south african gold reserves at an all time low. Since then South Africa has reverted from nuclear energy back to coal, education standards have plummeted. ie South Africa is going down the pan for the last 20 odd years.

Aung Suu Kyi how ever is defending here people from muslim insurgent. Big difference.

It's not often you get so much shite concentrated in one place.

skooterblue2

bubblypop wrote: »

And what did thousands of civilians, including children do exactly to attract that sort of attention?
Or, in layman's terms, be murdered?

I didn't say they deserved to die and I said that the Bangladeshi were attacting negative attention to themselves, if you are going around attracting negative attention you should expect reprisals.

skooterblue2

Odhinn wrote: »

It's not often you get so much shite concentrated in one place.

Point out what parts you disagree with? I suppose you are going to tell me Winne Mandella was running an after school under 14's football team.

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skooterblue2 wrote: »

I didn't say they deserved to die and I said that the Bangladeshi were attacting negative attention to themselves, if you are going around attracting negative attention you should expect reprisals.

You should expect genocide?

skooterblue2

bubblypop wrote: »

You should expect genocide?

Some of those stories are slightly exaggerated ................... https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/how-rohingya-suffering-gets-twisted-by-made-up-stories-1.3379672

Odhinn

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Point out what parts you disagree with? I suppose you are going to tell me Winne Mandella was running an after school under 14's football team.

"disagree"? They're factually wrong. Apartheid South Africa dismantled its nuclear weapons. They still have a nuclear power plant to this day.

Nelson Mandela was fighting a racist and evil regime, that at one stage tried to develop biological weapons targeting specific racial groups.

When the Burmese government persecutes the karen, chin, and other minorities have they brought that on themselves, or is that just the muslims?

Jamiekelly

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Point out what parts you disagree with? I suppose you are going to tell me Winne Mandella was running an after school under 14's football team.

The way you tried to draw a moral equivalent between Mandella making a bad economic mistake (predicated entirely on your own hindsight) by selling gold at a bad price to defending not just a Genocide but a shrivelled old bitch who denied there was even a problem with the Rohingya while calling it FAKE NEWS.

I see they are now charging foreign reuters journalists just for reporting on the attempted genocide. Thats brilliant news and definitely worthy of praise by you. Aung san suu kyi was a wolf in sheeps clothing and the sooner she gets dragged from her office kicking and screaming the better.

Genocide is not ok, ever. No matter who's on the receiving end. If you need a stranger on the internet to tell you that then I feel your mother and father probably raised a bit of a scummer and this nonsense you spout is probably the only way you can get attention that you never got when you were a kid.

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skooterblue2 wrote: »

Some of those stories are slightly exaggerated ................... https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/how-rohingya-suffering-gets-twisted-by-made-up-stories-1.3379672

I honestly don't care if some people tell a few lies in order to protect their family.
Doctors without borders stated that nearly 7000 rohingya were killed in one month.

5rtytry56

Colonel Qaddafi. 1980s a respected North African leader. Libya was developing a solid reputation.

Post 2010, turned into a nervous embittered wreck of a murderous tyrant.

mickrock

verycool wrote: »

Mother Teresa.

And she never used condoms. Very irresponsible.

ericl

Ghandhi, made one great film and then you never saw him again.

TheValeyard

Has Lance Armstrong been mentioned?

skooterblue2

Odhinn wrote: »

"disagree"? They're factually wrong. Apartheid South Africa dismantled its nuclear weapons. They still have a nuclear power plant to this day.

Nelson Mandela was fighting a racist and evil regime, that at one stage tried to develop biological weapons targeting specific racial groups.

When the Burmese government persecutes the karen, chin, and other minorities have they brought that on themselves, or is that just the muslims?

Yes they have a clapped out Nuclear facility that needs to be desperately refurbished. They have no long term plan on how to carry on with nuclear energy once they get rid of the whites. Is that racist? Their nuclear energy is only contributing 5%, abismal from what used to be one of the great first world countries in Africa. No address on the matter of the mass gold sale

I have never heard of biological weapons for specific racial groups by south Africa.

I know nothing about the Karen or the Chin. I am just seeing a minority trying to destabilise a legitimate government.

Also no

pleasant Co.

skooterblue2

bubblypop wrote: »

I honestly don't care if some people tell a few lies in order to protect their family.
Doctors without borders stated that nearly 7000 rohingya were killed in one month.

Well if you cant tell the truth from the lies what the point in talking? Its called Taqqiya and the word they use for use for you is a Dhimmi

skooterblue2

pleasant Co. wrote: »

Love that photo....... As soon as Saddam had served his purpose .... they disposed of him and rode the country and the USA using the UN oil for food programs and corporations like the Carlton groups and Black water. God save me from my friends, I can protect myself from my enemies.

[Deleted User]

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Well if you cant tell the truth from the lies what the point in talking? Its called Taqqiya and the word they use for use for you is a Dhimmi

& I don't care, if someone is desperately trying to get their family out of an area where thousands of innocent people are being killed, then a few lies to protect themselves doesn't really matter

Odhinn

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Yes they have a clapped out Nuclear facility that needs to be desperately refurbished. They have no long term plan on how to carry on with nuclear energy once they get rid of the whites. Is that racist? Their nuclear energy is only contributing 5%, abismal from what used to be one of the great first world countries in Africa. No address on the matter of the mass gold sale

...it was contributing 5% when the whites were in charge. Unless you're suggesting that its less powerful now the "blecks" are running the place.

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I have never heard of biological weapons for specific racial groups by south Africa.

It must never have happened then so. Or maybe

https://mrdivis.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/south-africas-dr-death-and-apartheids-chemical-and-biological-weapons-program/

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I know nothing about the Karen or the Chin............

Or Burma, extremist buddhist nationalism, south africa.......

Odhinn

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Well if you cant tell the truth from the lies what the point in talking? Its calledTaqqiyaand the word they use for use for you is a Dhimmi

So are medicine sans frontieres, amnesty, the UN, HRW and the rest all wrong? Were they all wrong when other minorities in Burma were persecuted, or has this only happened when it comes to the muslims?

skooterblue2

Odhinn wrote: »

So are medicine sans frontieres, amnesty, the UN, HRW and the rest all wrong? Were they all wrong when other minorities in Burma were persecuted, or has this only happened when it comes to the muslims?

Yep Amnesty are now funded by George Soros and his open borders agenda (he needs his own thread). The UN has been the architect of many human human right violations and famines itself ...... Rwanda, Congo and Niger just to name a few.