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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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Edna_Ennky

The Cork senior footballers are a shameful bunch. No fight. Huge lack of intensity in their tackling. Players not tracking their runners. Serious lack of skill too. Poor kick passing. Huge concession of turnovers to boot. Tyrone far better physically conditioned. This could turn exceptionally ugly for the rebels.

Santy2015

Horrendous football by cork. No fight, no skill, look unfit, no pace. I reckon any player left from 2010 has had their last game, I include the 28 year old Aidan Walsh in this.

Mahony0509

This is an embarrassment. Everyone thought it couldn't get worse after the Kerry game but by god it has.

Santy2015

Goes from bad to none of them should ever wear that jersey ever again. Absolutely shambles

alphasully

well if their plan was to bury cork football I think they have made a great start on it this year. just when you think it can't get any worse, they prove that it can.

irishfeen

Every single one of the management should step down this evening - this is beyond embarrassing and doing damage that might not be retrieved in the future to football in the county.

CZ 453

If the county board don't give a hoot about football they should stop putting a team forward every year. Save the rest of us having to watch that crap and pay for it. This has been going on for a while. The blame isn't solely that of the players there at the moment.

SeaFields

Jesus Christ. That is all

ShamoBuc

Travelling so couldn't watch it but suffice is to say the management should resign as one straight away. Several players should never again wear the jersey. Awful effort

The White Feather

I turned that match off at half time and looks like I made the right decision.

In better news, Cork beat Tipperary in the All-Ireland Senior Camogie Championship Group 2

Cork 1-27 Tipp 1-12

DellyBelly

Those guys who represent Cork must feel ashamed tonight. I suppose you can't blame them. If you are selected the you play. However Cork is a proud county but those players really disgraced themselves today

The_Kew_Tour

We have had some shocking years in football but this just Blows it away.

Feel bit for some players and can see effort but for county size of Cork its a Disgrace

eigrod

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

We have had some shocking years in football but this just Blows it away.

Feel bit for some players and can see effort but for county size of Cork its a Disgrace

Cork should be in super 8 with this group of players (and perhaps some others not included). They would not be at top 3 level yet, but comfortably should be 4-8. Seriously badly managed, coached amd trained. No clue as to what system they should be playing. A total mess.

The White Feather

Article about Cork today

The work begins on Monday was the message from Ronan McCarthy as Cork look to move on from back-to-back Championship drubbings.

McCarthy refused to go into details about exactly what is needed for Cork to recover from this latest embarrassment but he insisted he and his management team had a clear idea about the path forward.

“I have my own ideas on it that I’m not going sharing now,” he said.
“After the first year, I’m very clear in my mind where I need to go here and where we need to go but I’m not going to share that.

Losing to Kerry and Tyrone by a combined 33 points reflected terribly on Cork, who now have a major rebuilding process ahead of them.
“What I would say is that a lot of people pointed to the three-year term,” he said.

“We were very clear with the players that we wanted to get as much as we could out of this year. I think the danger with three-year terms is that three years down the line you may not have made much progress so you have to try and get the most out of the year and we felt after Tipp, we had a mixed league and there was a lot of kind of people making excuses for us about injuries and everything else and players not being available.

“We then beat Tipp and got a bit of momentum and it’s disappointing that we haven’t built on the momentum we got from Tipp.

That said, look it has to be also said about the players that they’re a very, very honest group of players, they train extremely hard. They don’t deserve what has happened out there but that’s life and you don’t always get what you deserve and that’s it.

The basics of commitment and training, dedication and work and everything else are there but they’re not coming out on the pitch and therefore we must go a different way.”

McCarthy didn’t agree the heavy loss to Kerry had affected Cork this evening.
“I’d look at it very differently. I felt that when I was playing and you got a beating like that, you were out of the Championship. There was no chance to recover.

“Here, you know, we had two weeks, a chance, a real opportunity to set ourselves up. I don’t think so but even if it did knock the confidence out of them, you still have to come out and go out and perform and unfortunately, it hasn’t happened again.”

marno21

On another note, best wishes to Donncha O'Connor hanging up his boots after 13 seasons with Cork. A great player during this time and still lining out for Cork this year at the ripe age of 37.

pakie ed

DellyBelly wrote: »

Those guys who represent Cork must feel ashamed tonight. I suppose you can't blame them. If you are selected the you play. However Cork is a proud county but those players really disgraced themselves today

You better show all your football meadles and All Star awards before you can stand by that statement. Having played my self at the highest Junior B leavel in Cork I can never direct criticism at a player or management. They are hurting tonight and so are their families. No body died and we will get on with life.

westcork67

I am sure they are hurting but as someone just home from that shambles they are not alone. What in God's name has gone wrong with Cork football - if they are putting in the effort and with our tradition, number of clubs, underage success etc how in the hell can they put in a performance like that??? It was 80s football - there was no semblance of a plan tailored to beat Tyrone, in fact I would add there was no semblance of any plan to our football at all!!

Our defenders were a mile off their opponents, the tracking back was atrocious, so many errors your'd lambast an under 14 for - it was that bad. I feel for the lads and Ronan and his team, I am sure they go out there with the best of intentions for Cork but something is rotten in the state of football at the moment - never have we needed a seperate football board more then we do now - bad enough having the complete incompetents running things over the last 40 years but even worse when it appears to me that they only really care for the hurling.

The CCB have not been held accountable for the last decades by the clubs who are the most important part of the GAA - the CCB are entrusted to develop and grow GAA in Cork and can they really say they have acheived success comensurate with the realistic ambitions of a county like Cork? - in there hole! We are Rebel county in name only at this stage - no balls anywhere as far as I can see. When I let off some steam at the match I was castigated by a couple of Cork supporters - if Kerry or Dublin or god forbid even Mayo performed like that there would be pitch invasions!! I am not saying that is right but at least it would show that people cared and were not willing to accept this ****e from the top down

Rebel county me arse - I am that annoyed!

westcork67

marno21 wrote: »

On another note, best wishes to Donncha O'Connor hanging up his boots after 13 seasons with Cork. A great player during this time and still lining out for Cork this year at the ripe age of 37.

Absolutly second this - an outstanding servant of Cork football and did not deserve to exit the Cork stage after that performance

Powerhouse

westcork67 wrote: »

It was 80s football - there was no semblance of a plan tailored to beat Tyrone!

I think that’s an offensive remark considering the efforts of Cork’s successful footballers 1987-90 when they won four Munster championships and two All Ireland’s. Little did they think they’d have their great efforts wiped off someone’s shoe 30 years later.

aidan24326

Powerhouse wrote: »

I think that’s an offensive remark considering the efforts of Cork’s successful footballers 1987-90 when they won four Munster championships and two All Ireland’s. Little did they think they’d have their great efforts wiped off someone’s shoe 30 years later.

You're quite right, that Cork team of the late 80s were on a different planet to the current bunch, and they'd probably beat the present day Tyrone team never mind lose to them by 16 points. An insult to some very good players to draw that comparison.

I have no doubt that there's good footballers in Cork, some of them were on the pitch this evening, but the current management have failed miserably and need to go. With a good manager and the right structure in place Cork will be back, but this team look clueless and rudderless and lacking leadership or any sort of meaningful gameplan. The management team score a big fat F.

Straight Talker

pakie ed wrote: »

You better show all your football meadles and All Star awards before you can stand by that statement. Having played my self at the highest Junior B leavel in Cork I can never direct criticism at a player or management. They are hurting tonight and so are their families. No body died and we will get on with life.

The manner in which Cork football, has fallen from grace from the heights, of the 2008-2012 period is an absolute disgrace.Two humiliating defeats back to back.The vast majority of this bunch of players and management, are clueless with regards to competing in the modern game.

We haven't won a serious championship game since 2012.This Cork footballing set up, is an amateur outfit, competing in what is pretty much in all but name, an elite and professional environment.

Cork have in the space of 5 years, gone from being an elite footballing county, to an absolute shambles of a footballing county.It's going to be a long way back from here.A lot of straightening out is required.

Cork football is at rock bottom, and i do have a feeling, that Ronan McCarthy is in way over his head here.But with the stadium built, and a revival in our hurling fortunes, the county board, just don't give a rattling bullsh!t about the football.

namloc1980

The county board don't give two shiits about football. Wasn't there an article a couple years back when the players created their own makeshift gym up in Fermoy using borrowed equipment? The team regularly had to ring around to local clubs for training space etc. The hurlers get royal treatment in comparison. The CCB couldn't be bothered with football and with the hurlers flying it, it'll get even less priority.

willietherock

namloc1980 wrote: »

. The hurlers get royal treatment in comparison. The CCB couldn't be bothered with football and with the hurlers flying it, it'll get even less priority.

No they fcukin don't. Last yr they were scratching around looking for training pitches on a regular basis.

There is no excuse for the on field performances the footballers have given over the last few yrs. Absolutely none. Going by McCarthy's after match comments he's finally realised what sort of people he's dealing with here. Expect a massive clear out.

zetecescort

Whether its coaching or players attitude is the issue but go the a club game at any grade and the first thing they'll do is make themselves hard to beat. It may not be pretty to watch but its a starting point that Cork fail miserably at.

Speakerboxx

Cork football is just a disgrace. Until we get someone like JFD or a successful manager outside of Cork to coach the team we won't be winning anything soon. The managers appointed over the last few years couldn't manage themselves out of a paper bag.

Santy2015

Speakerboxx wrote: »

Cork football is just a disgrace. Until we get someone like JFD or a successful manager outside of Cork to coach the team we won't be winning anything soon. The managers appointed over the last few years couldn't manage themselves out of a paper bag.

I don’t know about John Fenton Daly, that man is a head case, but maybe that’s what they need...
Ned English could be a good shout??

D'Agger

I've stated it before at length so I'll keep it short this time: If Cork are to improve at county level, then the domestic football championships and leagues have to be improved. This year, they were disimproved as a reaction to the super 8.

Also, you need an overhaul. Donnacadh O'Connor is a fantastic servant and seems a genuinely decent fella, but at 37 years of age, he should be nowhere near a county team.

Speakerboxx

Santy2015 wrote: »

I don’t know about John Fenton Daly, that man is a head case, but maybe that’s what they need...
Ned English could be a good shout??

JFD has coached 3 different teams to All Ireland success. He knows what is required to win and is a super man to read a game and master tactician . He is a head case but that's what Cork football needs right now.

Speakerboxx

D'Agger wrote: »

I've stated it before at length so I'll keep it short this time: If Cork are to improve at county level, then the domestic football championships and leagues have to be improved. This year, they were disimproved as a reaction to the super 8.

Also, you need an overhaul. Donnacadh O'Connor is a fantastic servant and seems a genuinely decent fella, but at 37 years of age, he should be nowhere near a county team.

At 37 he was still one of Corks best forwards. Says enough about the talent in Cork.

Water John

Full back and captain of Russia last night was 38. Both Stringer and O'Callaghan playing high level rugby at 39. Exceptions yes.
Cork were in the top 3/4 six years ago. Have sadly slipped badly since then, when they should have pushed on.