djPSB wrote: » Would bringing back Connelly/Holmes be an option if the players could put their differences behind them. Alot of C&H points about what Mayo require to win an All Ireland have proved true unfortunately.
charlie14 wrote: » With all the controversy regardless of how right or wrong there points were not a chance. If Rochford goes I could see it being difficult to get an established manager at county level to take on the job. Is there no club manager in Mayo who would be suitable ? What about the present Castlebar Mitchells manager or Peter Forde who has managed both Sligo and Galway in the past ?
djPSB wrote: Kevin McStay from the Rossies is maybe the logical option. Again would clash with some of the egos in the squad but that might not be any harm.
blinding wrote: » I wonder would Jim McGuinness be interested in the Mayo Job if it became available . Or has he more lucrative options at the Moment .
djPSB wrote: » John Maughan had success as club level last year and probably brought the County as close to an All Ireland as anyone in the past. Don't think he would be a popular option with the players though. Kevin McStay from the Rossies is maybe the logical option. Again would clash with some of the egos in the squad but that might not be any harm.
Loafing Oaf wrote: » Not sure Elverys would stump up for the flights back and forth to China for training sessions!:P
charlie14 wrote: » Forgot about John Maughan. Certainly a credible option. McStay for me was the one that got away, or more like the one that was let get away because some didn`t want his brother-in-law involved. I thought with his record with St Brigid`s, a great ex player and his commitment by giving up a well paid gig like The Sunday Game to manage his own county deserved better from the Mayo county board.
jr86 wrote: » Not realistic to win a Connacht? Ah come on now.
crusier wrote: » Seeing as he's not a Mayo man he'll make a good scapegoat for the loss and failure to win an All Ireland.
PARlance wrote: » Please stay Stephen! Especially if Forde, Maughan & McStay are the type of people being talked about as replacements.
keeponhurling wrote: » With the same team as 2016-2018, yes.
Coillte_Bhoy wrote: » He gave up one paid gig for an equally well paid if not better gig, the reason he didnt get anywhere in his quest for the Mayo job was also down to money. And at inter county level what exactly has he done thats so noteworthy? He proved himself tactically naive in the semi last year and then saw his team annihilated on the replay for a start
charlie14 wrote: » The Sunday Game is a very well paid gig and takes a whole lot less effort and time than being a senior county manager. Even so I would doubt there is more money for managing Roscommon than managing Mayo, but if there is then the Mayo county board would need to take a serious look at themselves. If you want to compare like with like between him and Rochford he did win Connacht plus he has twice got Roscommon promoted to Div 1.
Coillte_Bhoy wrote: » The Mayo Co Board acted responsibly, we are in enough of a financial mess as it is. I dont particularly want to compare them but Rochford actually kept us in Div 1 and got to 2 AI finals, a far bigger achievement than winning one meaningful match in the Connacht Cship
djPSB wrote: » He delivered a Connacht title. Which is more than SR delivered and with less talent at his disposal.
PressRun wrote: » Who cares? McStay neither wants nor would be getting the job.
PressRun wrote: » What about Mike Solan? This is only if Rochford actually decides to leave. I'd rather he stayed tbh.
charlie14 wrote: » As i said, I doubt McStay not getting the Mayo job had anything much to do with money. Even if it did, I doubt Roscommon are particular flush with the re-development of Hyde Park. When it comes to teams serious about winning an AI they look on the league as a blooding ground for new players to strengthen their squads for the championship and giving a break to players who have been on the road a long time. I cannot see where Mayo did either this year. Nobody, not even their own supporters, a wet week later cares who won or did well in the league. With the Super 8 format this year Mayo should not have given a tinkers damn about the league imo. Winning a Connacht championship wasn`t just one meaningful game this year, for Mayo it should have been the meaningful game to build their year around.
charlie14 wrote: » If you want to compare like with like between him and Rochford he did win Connacht plus he has twice got Roscommon promoted to Div 1.
PARlance wrote: » Is that really like for like? Rochford never had the chance to get promoted from Div 2. But then, Rochford never got relegated from Divison 1 either. There were quite a few asking about McStay after he 'masterminded' a draw last year... not so many asking for him when his team got hammered by 22 points a few days later. I would consider him a bit of a 'go out there and play' manager. I can't see any system or his mark on that team. He is probably a good players manager and he can certainly handle the media. The Rossies have a lot of talented footballers, I don't think he has done anything special with them. Not many of us were worried about Connaughts as we were going into AI Finals with a fighting chance in 16 & 17. Rochford deserves credit for getting them to where it matters. McStay shot the load in the League in 16. No Comparison in my book.
PARlance wrote: » Is that really like for like? Rochford never had the chance to get promoted from Div 2. But then, Rochford never got relegated from Divison 1 either. There were quite a few asking about McStay after he 'masterminded' a draw last year... not so many asking for him when his team got hammered by 22 points a few days later. I would consider him a bit of a 'go out there and play' manager. I can't see any system or his mark on that team. He is probably a good players manager and he can certainly handle the media.The Rossies have a lot of talented footballers, I don't think he has done anything special with them. Not many of us were worried about Connaughts as we were going into AI Finals with a fighting chance in 16 & 17. Rochford deserves credit for getting them to where it matters. McStay shot the load in the League in 16. No Comparison in my book.
seligehgit wrote: » Ah Parlance I think you are being pretty harsh on Kevin McStay. He has a decent group of footballers but without wishing to offend my Roscommon brethren they were not historically of the same quality as those available to Stephen Rochford. We aren't comparing like with like. Roscommon has half the population of Mayo. I have always firmly believed he'd have been a good appointment and had a great gra for his native county. But he was treated very poorly in terms of the appointment process irrespective of the financial considerations and the perceived players issues with his brother in law.He was passed over twice if I'm not mistaken and without doubt I believe wouldn't take the job now.
Zeek12 wrote: » seligehgit wrote: » Ah Parlance I think you are being pretty harsh on Kevin McStay. He has a decent group of footballers but without wishing to offend my Roscommon brethren they were not historically of the same quality as those available to Stephen Rochford. We aren't comparing like with like. Roscommon has half the population of Mayo. I have always firmly believed he'd have been a good appointment and had a great gra for his native county. But he was treated very poorly in terms of the appointment process irrespective of the financial considerations and the perceived players issues with his brother in law.He was passed over twice if I'm not mistaken and without doubt I believe wouldn't take the job now. Can someone explain exactly what the players supposed issue is with McHale? Do they simply think he's not up to it - or does it run deeper than that? I can't see McStay as a viable option now, he could have been a good appointment 3/4 years ago, but that ship has sailed. He seemed to take the rejection last time quite personally. Mind you if he really wanted the job back then, you'd think financial considerations could have been put to one side
muddle84 wrote: » In fairness, how could you not take it personally considering how the whole thig was handled by Mayo Gaa?
Zeek12 wrote: » Can someone explain exactly what the players supposed issue is with McHale?Do they simply think he's not up to it - or does it run deeper than that? I can't see McStay as a viable option now, he could have been a good appointment 3/4 years ago, but that ship has sailed. He seemed to take the rejection last time quite personally. Mind you if he really wanted the job back then, you'd think financial considerations could have been put to one side
seligehgit wrote: » Ah Parlance I think you are being pretty harsh on Kevin McStay. He has a decent group of footballers but without wishing to offend my Roscommon brethren they were not historically of the same quality as those available to Stephen Rochford. We aren't comparing like with like. Roscommon has half the population of Mayo. I have always firmly believed he'd have been a good appointment and had a great gra for his native county. But he was treated very poorly in terms of the appointment process irrespective of the financial considerations and the perceived players issues with his brother in law.He was passed over twice if I'm not mistaken and without doubt I believe wouldn't take the job now. Michael Solan would be a very exciting prospect IMO. What is the story with Donie Buckley and Tony McEntee?
