RIGOLO wrote: » Its here in pictures... Does anyone remember HRC and her Russia RESET RED BUTTON .... The US Secretary of State presents the Russian Foreign Minister with a little RED BUTTON to signify US-Russian relations reset, it was embarassing, lets present Putin with a red button, or as the articla says, " she gave him a device with a red knob " The US state dept could'nt even get the name right. So yes there are adults in the WhiteHouse now, dealing very effectively with US Foreign Policy , and dealing effectively with authoritarian regimes . The Trump Administration wont be presenting any red buttons to Foreign leaders.
Trent Houseboat wrote: » I've said it before, the Dunning Kreuger effect is best exemplified by the phrase "I know words, I have the best words"
RIGOLO wrote: » What incompetancy ? The Trump Administration has been the most competent adminstration in dealing with NK and getting them to the table and moving the situation forward. I dont see any incompetancy. Long term, think Rekjavik summit, think glasnost and peristroika, think the irish peace process, think how history has thought us how things work in the real world and evolve over months and years and even decades. Just cos a person has different opinions to you does not warrant them being called a wind up merchant, your displaying a baser self.
Sophia S. wrote: » How do you all think the midterm elections will play out in November? For, or against Trump?
everlast75 wrote: » RIGOLO wrote: » Its here in pictures... Does anyone remember HRC and her Russia RESET RED BUTTON .... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/03/17/the-failure-of-the-u-s-russia-reset-in-9-photos/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7ececb6c4aa8 The US Secretary of State presents the Russian Foreign Minister with a little RED BUTTON to signify US-Russian relations reset, it was embarassing, lets present Putin with a red button, or as the articla says, " she gave him a device with a red knob " The US state dept could'nt even get the name right. So yes there are adults in the WhiteHouse now, dealing very effectively with US Foreign Policy , and dealing effectively with authoritarian regimes . The Trump Administration wont be presenting any red buttons to Foreign leaders. At this stage, you have to be a wind up merchant? The reset button idea was an idea to reset international relations. Bush did something similar too. Trump wanted the same thing. He said so in his lead up to the inauguration. The major difference being that Russia didn't annex Crimea when Clinton and Bush tried it. Trump still wanted to be best buddies after he annexed Crimea and got kicked out of the G8. If you want to slag off initiatives as being embarrassing (a red knob), how about Trump's tarrif Bill acronym being called "The US FART Act" ffs.And you still haven't answered my question regarding the incompetency in dealing with NK. The US has ostracised themselves with the other G8 members and imposed tariffs on their allies. If that is your definition of good relations, I would hate to see how you treat your friends.
RIGOLO wrote: » Its here in pictures... Does anyone remember HRC and her Russia RESET RED BUTTON .... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/03/17/the-failure-of-the-u-s-russia-reset-in-9-photos/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7ececb6c4aa8 The US Secretary of State presents the Russian Foreign Minister with a little RED BUTTON to signify US-Russian relations reset, it was embarassing, lets present Putin with a red button, or as the articla says, " she gave him a device with a red knob " The US state dept could'nt even get the name right. So yes there are adults in the WhiteHouse now, dealing very effectively with US Foreign Policy , and dealing effectively with authoritarian regimes . The Trump Administration wont be presenting any red buttons to Foreign leaders.
He is thus the all-time record-holder of the Dunning-Kruger effect, the phenomenon in which the incompetent person is too incompetent to understand his own incompetence.
Midlife wrote: » RIGOLO wrote: » Trump filed his paperwork for re-election , HOURS, yes HOURS after his inauguration, on the same day Jan 20th 2017. He trademarked the logo 'Keep America Great' a few days later. He announced his formal campaign in Feb 2018, nearly 1,000 days before the election . His reelection campaign has over 40 million gathered. The same guy Brad Parscale who ran his digital campaign first time round has been given the job of Campaign Manager, and is already blitzing a digital 2020 campaign message. And yes all the current day to day events are played out on short term immediate basis , on the mid-term cycle but also long term as part of the 2020 campaign. And the American voter does take this strategy into his voting decisions for mid-term. They weigh up executive, legislative and judicial balance and decide where to cast their vote in the 2 and 4 year cycles. As Ive said there are now adults in The Whitehouse administration ALWAYS thinking long term. You're talking about Trump's campaign now. Not parties. Obviously Trump is only concerned about the next election he'll be in. He doesn't run for Senate.You've dropped that 'adults' line many many times too. Would those be the initial ones, you know the ones the adult-in-chief fired or moved on, or the replacement adults? The fact that you need to be so repeatedly provocative, and so obviously wrong (like Trumps administration are somehow more mature than previous ones) kind of belies your true intentions here. This thread and forum would be much better if people just focused on making their point rather than provoking a rise from others.
RIGOLO wrote: » Trump filed his paperwork for re-election , HOURS, yes HOURS after his inauguration, on the same day Jan 20th 2017. He trademarked the logo 'Keep America Great' a few days later. He announced his formal campaign in Feb 2018, nearly 1,000 days before the election . His reelection campaign has over 40 million gathered. The same guy Brad Parscale who ran his digital campaign first time round has been given the job of Campaign Manager, and is already blitzing a digital 2020 campaign message. And yes all the current day to day events are played out on short term immediate basis , on the mid-term cycle but also long term as part of the 2020 campaign. And the American voter does take this strategy into his voting decisions for mid-term. They weigh up executive, legislative and judicial balance and decide where to cast their vote in the 2 and 4 year cycles. As Ive said there are now adults in The Whitehouse administration ALWAYS thinking long term.
oscarBravo wrote: » Oh, she's not just a socialist now, she's a frigging champagne socialist? Jesus wept. I would suggest that some of you people research the concept of "democratic socialism", but that would be attributing to ignorance what's more adequately explained by mindless partisanship. It's utterly bizarre how threatened some people are by the mere idea of treating people like human beings instead of parasites.
Leroy42 wrote: » The Mid Terms really should eb a test of the Dems ability to get out the vote. A low of stuff is posted about their inability to get out their message, that they don't have a message, that voters simply don't like them, and superficially that all lokes grand. Except that the voters do like them. The majority voted for HC for example. What, IMO, they need to do is increase the voter turnout. They have been poor at that, particularly in the last presidential election where a few states cost HC. It was painted as a trounching but in reality a bit better vote management and she would have walked it. Can they get the younger/non-voting voter out? If they can't at the current time when Trump is such a lightning rod of opinion, they are in real trouble. When you see the level of marches about gun-control, against the separation at the border etc, there is a big groundswell out there looking for change. The GOP have shown themselves totally unable to deliver that change. The key now is whether the Dems can convince people that even if they don't like the Dems, to get change you need to first take out the problem.
2 Scoops wrote: » Was a bit of debate about the Democratic Socialists of America beliefs after Cortez's upset victory and whether or not she was extreme. Her party in NYC didn't leave much to the imagination.https://twitter.com/nycDSA/status/1012808259818926080https://www.dsausa.org/constitution Their own constitution reads "We are socialists because we reject an economic order based on private profit, alienated labor, gross inequalities of wealth and power, discrimination based on race, sex, sexual orientation, gender expression, disability status, age, religion, and national origin, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo," So yeah, pretty extreme one could say.
Christy42 wrote: » Sure but Trump was making a point of the unemployment rate. That is where the argument is going that the economy was not as good as claimed. Well what changed? The economy now is largely an extension of two years ago. So surely those left behind should be furious right? People keep claiming this but I see little evidence. Low played workers voted for Hilary. Trump supporters claimed the economy was terrible and then a few months later when everything was the same they claimed it brilliant. Honestly if they feel Trump supports their values then there are other issues with them. See throwing kids in overcrowded cages.
FreudianSlippers wrote: » Christy42 wrote: » Unemployment was not 40%. Just under half the population did not get left behind. You have provided 0 evidence for this claim that an awful lot of people (and I want a large proportion of those who voted for Trump). They believed Trump could make their problems go away because he promised them that. He also told them they were in far more trouble than they were and they believed him. He fed off of Republican lies about Obamacare. After he was elected people looked at Obamacare and realised how good it was and it quickly became popular and untouchable. Within months of the administration taking office we saw a sudden turn from complaining about the economy to praising it with very little actually changing. If they were left behind why are they still not angry at being left behind because things are not better? Trump lies. Unemployment does not have to be 40% for people to believe they got left behind - in fact, "coal country" is a prime example of the "employed" people that are Trump supporters because they were left behind. I don't know anyone with money who isn't either (i) a lifelong Republican (who isn't a fan of Trump) or (ii) a racist who is a fan of Trump. This is not a case of the wealthy supporting the Republican candidate; this is the disenfranchised uneducated supporting a President that they believe represents their "values".
Christy42 wrote: » Unemployment was not 40%. Just under half the population did not get left behind. You have provided 0 evidence for this claim that an awful lot of people (and I want a large proportion of those who voted for Trump). They believed Trump could make their problems go away because he promised them that. He also told them they were in far more trouble than they were and they believed him. He fed off of Republican lies about Obamacare. After he was elected people looked at Obamacare and realised how good it was and it quickly became popular and untouchable. Within months of the administration taking office we saw a sudden turn from complaining about the economy to praising it with very little actually changing. If they were left behind why are they still not angry at being left behind because things are not better? Trump lies.
aloyisious wrote: » Ta for the reply. It would seem sensible for the RN to simply fly Pers to nearest US base, request & get gear for a Seebee-type Op, airlift it to commonwealth island near disaster zone & transport same by sea using RN commandeered shipping, unload using whatever the usual [naval] way is. while proper ships are on way from distance. We do have a reputation for making do & getting the job done while civvies look on amazed, excelling in doing the miraculous daily. I think it's called adapt and overcome. While the adage is the job ain't complete til the paperwork is done. we're not talking about a toiler-seat task. :-) .
Is this reported new activist-force inside the D-party something the GOP should be worried about?
Inquitus wrote: » Don't forget the wonderful, and highly talented Betsy DeVos!
