jettamk6 wrote: » Hi ive recently offered a 3 month trial for an apprenticeship and i was just looking for feedback from people who've done this. when an employer usually says that do they usually mean cash in hand when they say trial period or is it by the books? its a plumbing apprenticeship with a fairly small company that ive been offered a job with if thats any help.
OMM 0000 wrote: » It's really impossible to know. I feel like this is something you can ask your employer. I understand it is not good if they are paying you under the table, but the important thing here is this: * Show up on time * Don't be hungover or smelling of booze * Seem enthusiastic * Try to remember what they tell you If I could go back in time, I'd love to be a plumber, electrician or carpenter. Take advantage of the opportunity in front of you!
jettamk6 wrote: » i prefer if it was by the the books but i mean who is going to that for only tree months. And i also dont want this just to be a ruse just to have me for 3 months work. How would i go about asking if its cash in hand Im sort off afraid to ask that in case offend it offends him. but i dont want to show up on the job and find out.
salmocab wrote: » This trial thing is nonsense its a way of getting to pay you for 15 months as a first year, sure they could let you go after 3 months if you werent working out regardless of trial period or not. You should be registered from within a few days of when you start with FAS. I think this was cracked down on a few years back to cut out this nonsense. Although that said I realise its easy for me to give out when I'm not the one looking to start an apprenticeship and get a start in the trade.
Conservatory wrote: » Every two lads that start, one of them leaves after a few weeks. Some people don’t like being barked at by a man under pressure, some don’t like to get up ladders, some don’t like to walk fast, some are scared of grinders and some just don’t realize it’s hard work. Some end up on fire watch for a few months or standing at the bottom of a cherry picker telling people to be careful and not walk into it. It’s not for everybody. I unclogged a dishwasher in my way home. (I seem to always get calls for feckin clogged dishwashers) when an apprentice sees you rummaging through somebodies week old food some of them there and then decide it’s not for them. I’m not sure how hard it is to get rid of an apprentice but I’m guessing fairly hard. There’s one drunk in my company that nobody will work with, they still keep him on even though he’s a third or fourth year now. When he gets qualified he will be let go the very same day. But until then he just keeps getting made up jobs. So I suppose the trial is fair enough for everybody.
jettamk6 wrote: » i will mostly be working in the commercial end of plumbing but if it i had to do domestic and what you described thats alright as at least in the long run you get a career out of it as a posed to doing minimum wage jobs for the rest of my life
Hellrazer wrote: » It's actually not a way to get an apprentice to work for 15 months as a first year.Its very very difficult to get rid of an apprentice once you have registered them with Solas and there are strict rules that stop you taking on another one for a set period of time so you need that person to be the right person before registering them. I give a one or two month trial to all of mine and believe me that trial has saved me months of hardship. You get lads who think it will be great to be an apprentice but don't actually realise that the first 2 years are spent as a general labourer ,emptying bins,doing the crap work for **** wages when they're friends are out working in a minimum paid job earning more than the apprentice. A lot leave within the first month to go and work in a similar role and don't think longer term.
jettamk6 wrote: » Hi lads thanks for the responses i also have another two questions i would like to get opinions on alright here we go: First off im waiting to hear back from the naval service and also the army two jobs i would love to do but if i get a call from the the defedence forces a week or two into my new job what should i do? i would love to serve in the naval service or army but not make a career out of it. I have heared you can do an apprentice ship with the defence forces but its pretty limited in what you can pick. My second question is if you you where in my shoes would you take a job where it costs you around 60 euro a week on travel because thats what ive worked out what my travel costs will be for this new job.
salmocab wrote: » Don’t worry about the naval service or the army if they come up decide then based on your recent experience, 60 on travel is a pain out of 250ish but not the end of the world. I’m sure at this stage you have worked out the first 2 years are rough money wise but we all did it.
jettamk6 wrote: » Thanks but im 23 and its just i feel like i wont get another chance to serve in the defence forces i have a really difficult home situation and the defence forces just look like an opportunity to leave home even if its for a few months at time.
Conservatory wrote: » Why in the name of jaysis would you join the army? Come on here worried about your rights and being taken advantage of then say you want to leave to join the army? It’s not like the ads.
salmocab wrote: » Btw 23 is not old plenty start apprenticeships in their late 20s and some even later. Lots of employers like to take lads who have done other work and appreciate what they are getting.
jettamk6 wrote: » ha ha i know what the army entails but i also said i would also like to serve in the navy which is what I lean towards more than the army. Also the irish army is pretty safe compared to the us and uk army ours mostly do peace keeping.
jettamk6 wrote: » you see i lean towards the navy as i love the sea but i would love to also do an apprentice ship while serving in the navy but from what ive seen its mostly mechanical and eletrical that they offer which makes sense.
