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Seriously RTE, reporting on the issues facing lgbt youths from outside a bar?
What next abortion legislation from copper faced jacks, probably due the mainstream media obsession with the place.
Not trying to be offensive but it does seem to trivialise the issue.

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yesto24

Omackeral wrote: »

We need it, tomorrow is Gay Christmas, where's your festive queer cheer?

In all honestly, if I saw anyone abusing two lads for simply holding hands I'd love nothing more than to go over and smash their bigoted faces in. I'm glad society has moved on leaps and bounds but I'm not daft enough to think everything is all rosey either for gay peeps. I'd love the day that a major sports star being gay simply isn't really news.

On the other hand, one thing I will say is miss me what all that OTT stereotypical ''shut up bitch'' carry-on. That sh*t is parody level stuff and I've no time for it.

For me a major sports star being gay isn't and should not be news.
For a lot, maybe most, of the people, organisations, media pushing pride as a most important event it would be.
That is the difference, for most of us, what you like to suck on, is none of our business and we just don't care.
Being gay means only one thing and one thing only. You like cock.
For everything else you are with the rest of us, some will find life easy, some will find it hard.
Some will have great success, most will plod along like the most of the rest of us and some will fail, badly in some cases.

AllForIt

Conservatory wrote: »

So what are the issues facing yong gay people today?

Watch the news report to which the OP refers. It's available on RTE iPlayer. You'll get to see what a gay bar looks like into the bargain not that is in any way relevant especially according to the OP. Although I'd issue a health warning - if you have an aversion to rainbow flags which I suspect you might - look away now. They have been known to cause epileptic fits in some folk.

Conservatory

AllForIt wrote: »

Watch the news report to which the OP refers. It's available on RTE iPlayer. You'll get to see what a gay bar looks like into the bargain not that is in any way relevant especially according to the OP. Although I'd issue a health warning - if you have an aversion to rainbow flags which I suspect you might - look away now. They have been known to cause epileptic fits in some folk.

Ah I’m a homophobe now. Thanks for that.

Logo

Conservatory wrote: »

So what are the issues facing yong gay people today?

Just a few accounts of homophobic attacks from 2018 alone...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/garda%C3%AD-investigate-suspected-homophobic-attack-in-portlaoise-1.3547328
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/teenager-charged-with-gbh-after-woman-attacked-with-drill-1.3485765
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/07/homophobic-drill-attack-woman-with-hole-skull-county-tyrone
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/let-down-by-the-country-we-love-dearly-gay-irish-couple-speak-of-struggles-to-get-passport-for-son-37056785.html
https://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/gay-couple-brutally-attacked-after-miami-beach-pride-36797450.html

Conservatory

Logo wrote: »

Just a few accounts of homophobic attacks from 2018 alone...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/garda%C3%AD-investigate-suspected-homophobic-attack-in-portlaoise-1.3547328
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/teenager-charged-with-gbh-after-woman-attacked-with-drill-1.3485765
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/07/homophobic-drill-attack-woman-with-hole-skull-county-tyrone
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/let-down-by-the-country-we-love-dearly-gay-irish-couple-speak-of-struggles-to-get-passport-for-son-37056785.html
https://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/gay-couple-brutally-attacked-after-miami-beach-pride-36797450.html

One of them is in Miami. The rest apart from one were probably just random attacks. There’s one about adoptin stuff where a couple adopted a baby and want to move here with him. It’s hardly martyr stuff.

Issues affecting primary school teachers would probably be more interesting

Baron Kurtz

Conservatory wrote: »

So what are the issues facing yong gay people today?

I dunno, they can't get a job in Topshop, maybe?

NeonCookies

A brick with a homophobic message attached thrown through the window of Panti bar just now. There are definitely still issues.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PantiBliss/status/1012828435968905217?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

ItAintMeBabe

yesto24 wrote: »

I don't agree. Stop trying to be a victim.

How about you stop commenting on issues you clearly know nothing about and realize your privilege?

yesto24

ItAintMeBabe wrote: »

How about you stop commenting on issues you clearly know nothing about and realize your privilege?

And what privilege would that be?

Conservatory

ItAintMeBabe wrote: »

How about you stop commenting on issues you clearly know nothing about and realize your privilege?

Ah jaysis is this a hashtag thing

Conservatory

NeonCookies wrote: »

A brick with a homophobic message attached thrown through the window of Panti bar just now. There are definitely still issues.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PantiBliss/status/1012828435968905217?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Seems made up to me

ItAintMeBabe

yesto24 wrote: »

And what privilege would that be?

I really shouldn't have to explain that to you.

Logo

Conservatory wrote: »

One of them is in Miami. The rest apart from one were probably just random attacks. There’s one about adoptin stuff where a couple adopted a baby and want to move here with him. It’s hardly martyr stuff.

Issues affecting primary school teachers would probably be more interesting

Are you a Catholic Conservatory? I've met many claiming to be Catholic but very few are Christian. The most notorious homophobic attack from memory was Declan Flynn in 1982
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declan_Flynn

How Soon Is Now

I hope I'm alive to see the day when we won't need ****ing parades or special days weeks or months to celebrate things that only apply to a certain amount of people yet everyone has to know and hear about it.

yesto24

ItAintMeBabe wrote: »

I really shouldn't have to explain that to you.

Well it looks like you are going to have to.
It not that I am demanding it, it's just that you raised it you are going to have to expand on it.
It's up to you, I can't order or make you do anything.

AllForIt

NeonCookies wrote: »

A brick with a homophobic message attached thrown through the window of Panti bar just now. There are definitely still issues.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PantiBliss/status/1012828435968905217?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Brave lads. They won't be anywhere to be seen around that area on Saturday.

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Conservatory

Logo wrote: »

Are you a Catholic Conservatory? I've met many claiming to be Catholic but very few are Christian. The most notorious homophobic attack from memory was Declan Flynn in 1982
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declan_Flynn

I think organized religion should be outlawed. I will swear on the holy Noah ark to prove that I’m not religious or as has been mentioned earlier a homophobe.

The link from the above 1980s horrible attack on the fella in Fairview was from a time when young gay people had issues. It’s a fricking picnic nowadays for young gay people thanks to hero’s from that time. What’s annoying me here is the whining snowflakes trying to pretend there is an issue when there is very little of an issue. Sure the boss of the country is a gay man now.

If I was sitting down with my family 20 years ago and told my brother to not worry about being gay in a few years there will be a gay Taoiseach everybody in the local area would have been called in to laugh at me.

ItAintMeBabe

yesto24 wrote: »

Well it looks like you are going to have to.
It not that I am demanding it, it's just that you raised it you are going to have to expand on it.
It's up to you, I can't order or make you do anything.

Well look I'll put it to you in a question, have you every been threatened or verbally abused for being heterosexual?

If the answer is no, then that is your privilege.

wakka12

yesto24 wrote: »

You do realise 10 years ago was 2008?
Things were not that bad then.
Even 20 years ago I don't think that would have happened.

Yeh I don't think it was that bad in 2008..societal normalisation and acceptance really changed incredibly rapidly almost immediately around and after the referendum though, I remember my boyfriend and I if we were out together in public before the referendum a lot more people would stare and theres only been a handful of instances in ireland where anybody physically or verbally attacked us, and all happened before the referendum , could be just chance

I remember seeing other gay couples out in dublin before 2015 was still a bit of a novelty, you just see so many gay and lesbian couples now though, especially really young gay couples, I can't remember the last time anybody so much as glanced longer than usual at me and my boyfriend holding hands since the referendum tbh

deco nate

Why the hate of gay people? Hardest people on the planet. Some strange posts on here.
I was gonna post the transcript of this, but I know it would lose its meaning in text. So here is the video, watch it in full.

https://youtu.be/6xxiK6Z4eXs

[Deleted User]

Conservatory wrote: »

Straight lads get hidings as well. You know there’s all this stuff about violence against gays

How many of them do you think got beaten up because they were straight? :rolleyes:

yesto24

ItAintMeBabe wrote: »

Well look I'll put it to you in a question, have you every been threatened or verbally abused for being heterosexual?

If the answer is no, then that is your privilege.

You can't put this idea of "privilege" into words without it being a question? It just comes across as patronising. I am not a fool, I can follow an idea (and yes I know this is after hours and some wit will be along to say "you are a fool ha ha but anyway)
To answer your question yes.
Ah well, looks like I don't have that privilege.
Just for the record are there any other privileges I should look out for?
But do you know what, he didn't do that to me because he was gay he did it because he was a dick who just happened to be gay.
Anyway go away with your privilege nonsense.
It a bull**** idea and is very easy to turn around on anyone so be careful where you use it or it will be turned on you.

trick

Conservatory wrote: »

Straight lads get hidings as well. You know there’s all this stuff about violence against gays and violence about women but straight men getting hit never gets reported much.

I’d say more gay men and women get beaten by their partners these days than get beaten by homophobes.

I get where you are coming from. However, gay people are generally getting the **** kicked out of them because they are gay. A straight guy or a straight woman gets the **** kicker out of them for reasons GENERALLY unrelated to their sexual orientation

[Deleted User]

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I hope I'm alive to see the day when we won't need ****ing parades or special days weeks or months to celebrate things that only apply to a certain amount of people yet everyone has to know and hear about it.

We already had that day back in the 1950's.

Apply that logic next time and we won't have Christmas, Easter, St. Patrick's Day, etc.

yesto24

trick wrote: »

I get where you are coming from. However, gay people are generally getting the **** kicked out of them because they are gay. A straight guy or a straight woman gets the **** kicker out of them for reasons GENERALLY unrelated to their sexual orientation

And what is worse?
They are both going to hurt just as bad. Are gay bones more brittle than straight bones? Does gay skin cut more easily than straight skin?
This is the problem of the idea of a hate crime, surely all crimes of kicking the **** of someone innocent is a hate crime?

Will I Am Not

Privilege :rolleyes:

deco nate

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We already had that day back in the 1950's.

Apply that logic next time and we won't have Christmas, Easter, St. Patrick's Day, etc.

I'd be happy if religion was wiped off the face of the planet, but let's keep the holidays.we would be better off without all this bs

trick

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I hope I'm alive to see the day when we won't need ****ing parades or special days weeks or months to celebrate things that only apply to a certain amount of people yet everyone has to know and hear about it.

They REALLY don’t just apply to a certain amount of people. Every one is accepted. That’s the entire idea. Every person is invited & accepted.
I am 34.
I was in a hetero rel up until early 2016. I am in a rel with a girl since late 2016.
I have faced anti homo **** since then. Not a lot I will admit. HOWEVER, it has happened.
One afternoon we were crossing the Italian quarter bridge and a guy barked “DYKES” in our face.
Please tell me of a time where you were persecuted about your sexual orientation

How Soon Is Now

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We already had that day back in the 1950's.

Apply that logic next time and we won't have Christmas, Easter, St. Patrick's Day, etc.

Im sure at some point we won't even be calling them those names or celebrating them the same in fear of offending someone.

How Soon Is Now

trick wrote: »

They REALLY don’t just apply to a certain amount of people. Every one is accepted. That’s the entire idea. Every person is invited & accepted.
I am 34.
I was in a hetero rel up until early 2016. I am in a rel with a girl since late 2016.
I have faced anti homo **** since then. Not a lot I will admit. HOWEVER, it has happened.
One afternoon we were crossing the Italian quarter bridge and a guy barked “DYKES” in our face.
Please tell me of a time where you were persecuted about your sexual orientation

I never said I was? Did I?