olgalitvinenko wrote: » Hi All, Looking for the advise. If the person was granted with Irish residence and after the immigration office found out that this person used to live in Ireland 8 years ago illegally and had a fake passport. What to expect? at the moment waiting for the letter from Immigration office.
GarIT wrote: » A couple of years in prison before deportation.
fritzelly wrote: » Why bother spending money on jail, just deport You withheld facts from the immigration office so they can rightly revoke your citizenship and deport you - whether they will is another thing As above a solicitor is what you need who specialises in it and maybe can use good character, valuable member of society reasons for not deporting. In this day and age when phones have fingerprint and facial scanners why isn't customs more techy to prevent this
nuac wrote: » Mod Consult a solicitor experienced in immigration
GarIT wrote: » sshhh, I'm trying to scare them into leaving without costing people legitimately in Ireland any more money. There shouldn't be any reasons not to deport. You're either legal or not, character is irrelevant. The idea of a prison sentence would be to deter people doing it again. I would be in support of something cost effective like giving illegal immigrants a good beating before deporting them so they are less likely to do it again and we don't have to pay for them to spend time in prison.
olgalitvinenko wrote: » You can't judge the people if you don't know their story!!!!
troyzer wrote: » I wouldn't be one to judge, there can be any number of personal reasons for it. But if it was something really awful you should have applied for asylum. If not, then you're probably going to get deported at best.
olgalitvinenko wrote: » nothing awful. long story short. more than 10 years ago my dad came here to earn money for my education in Ukraine. I actually got a bachelor degree with marks of distinguish. then he left (when the mission was complete ). after few years I had a business trip to ireland. met a guy. fall in love and etc. we have 2 kids. both working, paying taxes. And i've decided to bring my parents here so they can see how their grandchildren growing. just wanted family be together. they were granted with residence. and then BOOM!!! All our dreams ruined!!! My dad is hard working person still healthy and strong. we didn't even think about social or anything like that. We can support them and so on. i just want my see my parent more often than onces a year. you know what i mean... Don't know what to do.....
troyzer wrote: » Oh I see, so it's your Dad that can't come? So you and most of your family are fine but because your Dad was working here illegally and he's been found out, you don't think he'll be allowed to stay? Is he already in Ireland? I'm really sorry, what a crap situation to be in. But I have to agree with everyone else here, it seems unlikely that he'll be cut slack. Having said that, there might be a bit of leeway now with Ukraine having signed the Association agreement with the EU. Maybe that'll make a difference, I have no idea.
olgalitvinenko wrote: » yes, he is in Ireland at the moment. We went to get a stamp in his passport but met a garda instead. We are waiting for the letter from immigration office. Don't know what to expect....
troyzer wrote: » Your best move probably is to seek legal advice from solicitors who specialise in this. I have no idea who to recommend but I'm sure a bit of googling would find someone local enough. It's not something you want to put on the long finger, I'd be proactive and get proper legal advice now when it might make a difference.
troyzer wrote: » Give these lads a bell, they'll point you the right way I'd imagine.https://www.immigrantcouncil.ie/contact
GarIT wrote: » I don't give a **** about your story someone with a fake passport to stay in a country illegally is a lowlife scumbag and deserves to be locked up.
troyzer wrote: » Lowlife scumbag for working abroad for a while to pay for his daughter's education? Sounds like a stand up guy. He should have been let in legally to begin with.
GarIT wrote: » troyzer wrote: » Lowlife scumbag for working abroad for a while to pay for his daughter's education? Sounds like a stand up guy. He should have been let in legally to begin with. What he's doing is irrelevant, he gets the lowlife scumbag status when he presents a fake passport to customs/immigration. I also think this might be a troll as bachelor's degree don't have destinctions.
Uboat wrote: » Are you ok with locking up tens of thousands of lowlife Irish citizens scumbags who stay illegally in USA?
fxotoole wrote: » If they used a fake US passport, you can bet your ass the States would lock them up.
troyzer wrote: » We're so quick as a nation to kick the ladder down behind us after we've finally climbed out of poverty. How many hundreds of thousands if not millions of Irish people ove the years have made a better life for themselves by moving abroad both legally AND illegally? He will be deported and perhaps rightfully so, but that doesn't make him a scumbag for trying to make the life of his kids better than his own.
GarIT wrote: » What he's doing is irrelevant, he gets the lowlife scumbag status when he presents a fake passport to customs/immigration. I also think this might be a troll as bachelor's degree don't have destinctions.
