aloyisious wrote: » @Manic_Moran and other US citizens: What is the feeling, if any yet, within the US on Don's latest reported statements on Russian interference in the elections, that maybe they didn't interfere and these statements flying in the face of Senate Committee finding, his own new head of National Security and his own Security Service Agencies who have concluded on the basis of both evidence and probability that the Russians did interfere in the elections? Are the statements being seen as a sop to butter up Putin before the upcoming meeting in Finland? If the statements are NOT being seen as part of an attempt to butter up Putin or an attempt to soften up any opposition within Capitol Hill GOP'ers to the meeting, what are they seen as? I know Don has a habit of putting out statements that are purely rubbish and explained away shortly after as being misunderstood. I'm wondering, seriously, if Don is now [at this stage in his presidency and knowledge of the US internal investigations into Russian interference of the election] deliberately putting US national interests at risk all for the pleasure of meeting Putin and keeping him happy. How long will it be before the US wakes up to the fact that Don is selling it down the river?
Leroy42 wrote: » MSM totally avoiding the Foxconn story. Rigolo, I think you might be onto something! https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/06/28/donald-trump-oversee-groundbreaking-foxconn-wisconsin/739813002/https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-gives-remarks-at-foxconn-live-stream/https://www.c-span.org/video/?447699-1/president-trump-delivers-remarks-foxconn-facilityhttps://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/06/28/gov-scott-walker-foxconn-president-trump.htmlhttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-foxconn/trump-lauds-taiwans-foxconn-threatens-harley-on-wisconsin-trip-idUSKBN1JO3AUhttps://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/06/28/wisconsin-groundbreaking-foxconn-overseen-president-trump-live-stream/742032002/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-28/trump-celebrates-wisconsin-foxconn-facility-amid-tariff-tensions
Anyways its not recieving anywhere near the publicity
I trust other people also have jobs and busy lives, and this is a serious Politics forum, its really wastes a lot of time have to correct incorrections in what people quote from others.that people should not waste their time on
RIGOLO wrote: » Leroy42 wrote: » MSM totally avoiding the Foxconn story. Rigolo, I think you might be onto something! https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/06/28/donald-trump-oversee-groundbreaking-foxconn-wisconsin/739813002/https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-gives-remarks-at-foxconn-live-stream/https://www.c-span.org/video/?447699-1/president-trump-delivers-remarks-foxconn-facilityhttps://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/06/28/gov-scott-walker-foxconn-president-trump.htmlhttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-foxconn/trump-lauds-taiwans-foxconn-threatens-harley-on-wisconsin-trip-idUSKBN1JO3AUhttps://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/06/28/wisconsin-groundbreaking-foxconn-overseen-president-trump-live-stream/742032002/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-28/trump-celebrates-wisconsin-foxconn-facility-amid-tariff-tensions You seem to frequently mis-quote people, is it intentional or unintentional. I never said MSM was ignoring the story. ... heres what I said Anyways its not recieving anywhere near the publicity that 400 jobs lost to Harley has recieved , so 15,000 jobs gained is not as newsworthy as 400 jobs lost, I wonder why, could it be the MSM have an agenda. If you want to discuss if the 400 job losses in Harley got similar publicity as 15,000 jobs gained for Wisonsin , then lets have it. If you want to disuss that the " MSM totally avoided the Foxconn story " , then you will have to find someone who took that position. I trust other people also have jobs and busy lives, and this is a serious Politics forum, its really wastes alot of time have to correct incorrections in what people quote from others.
RIGOLO wrote: » Anyways its not recieving anywhere near the publicity that 400 jobs lost to Harley has recieved , so 15,000 jobs gained is not as newsworthy as 400 jobs lost, I wonder why, could it be the MSM have an agenda.
seamus wrote: » RIGOLO wrote: » Anyways its not recieving anywhere near the publicity that 400 jobs lost to Harley has recieved , so 15,000 jobs gained is not as newsworthy as 400 jobs lost, I wonder why, could it be the MSM have an agenda. The Foxconn plant received the publicity last year when it was announced. The Foxconn plant is not news. It's rehashing old, known information as a distraction technique. You can't keep pointing back at old "wins" to pretend that everything is OK now. Harley-Davidson is new information, that has arisen directly out of Trump's actions. His role in the Foxconn deal is questionable, at the time it was a success for, "Hey look, companies aren't fleeing in terror, they are continuing with the plans they made under Obama".
RIGOLO wrote: » seamus wrote: » RIGOLO wrote: » Anyways its not recieving anywhere near the publicity that 400 jobs lost to Harley has recieved , so 15,000 jobs gained is not as newsworthy as 400 jobs lost, I wonder why, could it be the MSM have an agenda. The Foxconn plant received the publicity last year when it was announced. The Foxconn plant is not news. It's rehashing old, known information as a distraction technique. You can't keep pointing back at old "wins" to pretend that everything is OK now. Harley-Davidson is new information, that has arisen directly out of Trump's actions. His role in the Foxconn deal is questionable, at the time it was a success for, "Hey look, companies aren't fleeing in terror, they are continuing with the plans they made under Obama". Foxconn plant is , to quote DT , HUGE news . People should learn to connect the dots . Wisconsin is a swing state , with an upcoming Senate mid term and only a single digit lead in the polls for the incumbent Democrat. The breaking of ground on the plant and a visit from Trump is a huge boost to the Republican cause. Among other things, the Democrats will have to pour huge amounts of money into Baldwins campaign, money that is getting harder and harder to come by as donors start to dry up, if they are to stop Wisconsin turning RED. So like I said Foxconn story was deserving of some serious analysis and headlines, and not just of the 15000/13000 jobs, the signals on trade rebalancing, but also for the mid-term elections and how it swings the momentum to the GOP and could reaffirm the current Senate map.
RIGOLO wrote: » If you want to discuss if the 400 job losses in Harley got similar publicity as 15,000 jobs gained for Wisonsin , then lets have it.
RIGOLO wrote: » If you want to discuss if the 400 job losses in Harley got similar publicity as 15,000 jobs gained for Wisonsin , then lets have it. If you want to disuss that the " MSM totally avoided the Foxconn story " , then you will have to find someone who took that position. .
RIGOLO wrote: » Foxconn plant is , to quote DT , HUGE news . People should learn to connect the dots . Wisconsin is a swing state , with an upcoming Senate mid term and only a single digit lead in the polls for the incumbent Democrat. The breaking of ground on the plant and a visit from Trump is a huge boost to the Republican cause. Among other things, the Democrats will have to pour huge amounts of money into Baldwins campaign, money that is getting harder and harder to come by as donors start to dry up, if they are to stop Wisconsin turning RED. So like I said Foxconn story was deserving of some serious analysis and headlines, and not just of the 15000/13000 jobs, the signals on trade rebalancing, but also for the mid-term elections and how it swings the momentum to the GOP and could reaffirm the current Senate map.
RIGOLO wrote: » Foxconn plant is , to quote DT , HUGE news .
seamus wrote: » But it's not news. It's olds.
aloyisious wrote: » @Manic_Moran and other US citizens: What is the feeling, if any yet, within the US on Don's latest reported statements on Russian interference in the elections
seamus wrote: » RIGOLO wrote: » Foxconn plant is , to quote DT , HUGE news . But it's not news. It's olds.
amandstu wrote: » Have any reporters asked the WH if they plan to take any action regarding one use plastic and the effects it seems to be having on marine wildlife? They could maybe ask what the most stable genius is doing with his used condoms.... (not wishing to trivialize the issue , but we may have to address the presidency in the gutter where it is currently slumming it)
jooksavage wrote: » Why on earth did Trump duck those questions about the newspaper shootings in Maryland? I can't understand why he couldn't offer a bland tboughts 'n prayers statement. God knows he's got plenty to say about evetything else. Is he afraid he'll alienate the base if he's seen to be taking a stance against the murder of journalists? I can't fathom it. Its like every opportunity he gets to act he demurs.
RIGOLO wrote: » The Foxconn visit , publicity around it, POTUS taking time out of a busy schedule to go on site and spending a rare night in town also, thats a huge injection of ammo for the upcoming mid-term.
Manic Moran wrote: » Even if I were up to speed (Currently in Dorset for a short while), I tend to not pay attention to what DT says. It seems to change routinely anyway, I have long since learned to pay attention only to the policies he actually commits to, and whatever it is the various officials responsible for the appropriate items have to say. WRT Puerto Rico, I’m curious as to what sort of response folks expected. Compare to another carribiean area devastated by Irma, BVI. Five months later, almost half the population were still without electricity, and it’s a much smaller problem to deal with. It’s not as if the Royal Navy couldn’t transport a bunch of engineers and generators, right? Or maybe it was an utterly devastating storm which hammered an already fragile infrastructure. The response was significant, the hurricane even more so. Not as if I don’t pay attention to the issue, my wife’s family in the hills of SE Puerto Rico were without power for two months (literally, after their generator was stolen). A year ago tomorrow I was in the NE corner of the island getting married, I have a few ties to the place.
In a recent interview Eric spoke about the effect that entering politics has had on his father. “There would be far fewer headaches if it weren’t for politics, but it’s all worth it when you know you’re in it for the right reasons,” he said. “My father’s life became exponentially worse the minute he decided to run for president. He didn’t need to do this, but he was immensely frustrated with where the country was going.”
Manic Moran wrote: » WRT Puerto Rico, I’m curious as to what sort of response folks expected. Compare to another carribiean area devastated by Irma, BVI. Five months later, almost half the population were still without electricity, and it’s a much smaller problem to deal with. It’s not as if the Royal Navy couldn’t transport a bunch of engineers and generators, right?
WRT Puerto Rico, I’m curious as to what sort of response folks expected. Compare to another carribiean area devastated by Irma, BVI. Five months later, almost half the population were still without electricity, and it’s a much smaller problem to deal with. It’s not as if the Royal Navy couldn’t transport a bunch of engineers and generators, right?
RIGOLO wrote: » The BVI , considering somoen else brought it up, Im taking advantage and digressing the thread. I remember doing the maths on this post the disaster. Population : 32,000 Registered Companies : Estimated at anywhere between 15 and 30 (wiki currently says 30) registered companies per head of population. So lets say 500,000 Registered Companies in the BVI I estimate if every BVI registered company gave 1,000 Dollars, to the BVI (after all it is their home) to help them rebuild, they would have 500 Million to play around with. BVIs rebuilding problem solved , dont worry it wont happen, hypocrisy and greed are alive and kicking. (and have been long before DT arrived , just to bring this back on topic and avoid mod rage)
