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GLAS thread

Muckit

There may be some interest in setting this up to help with any GLAS related items.

My questions (although not exclusively glas related) are as follows:

I have LIPP and l am trying to work out in real terms what chemical N l am allowed to put out.

So far l've converted the 40kg/ha limit to kg/acre which works put @ 16.19kg/acre.

Now take say a 50kg bag of CAN. That's 27%N so am l right in saying this works out @ 13.5kg? So really a bag of CAN is all that is allowed/annum?

Or if spreading typical compound like 18-6-12 that 1.5bags/acre can be comfortably spread?

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Green farmer

Creed did a good job of keeping his head down for the last week. To be honest wasn’t expecting much after his handling of the glas computer glitches last year.

tanko

I says wrote: »

Well is everyone ready to make hay sorry top the lipp tomorrow:):):):)

79 mnutes to go until i cut the hay meadows, mower on and tractor full of diesel, cant wait.

I says

Well is everyone ready to make hay sorry top the lipp tomorrow:):):):)

Base price

blue5000 wrote: »

I wouldn't be posting about it here, anyone can read this.

The EU has recently approved the use of 2 newer (high resolution) EU satellites to inspect/monitor farms under SFP/BPS and other direct payment schemes. Apparently there is no cost to DAFM.

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/eye-in-the-sky-how-satellites-monitor-your-farm-378780

blue5000

I wouldn't be posting about it here, anyone can read this.

endainoz

You can top LIPP after the first, cant see any issue making silage or hay from it....

Dinzee Conlee

grange mac wrote: »

Can you cut a lipp? Lets for argument say I want to make hay from it....but dont have hay as an option...just the LIPP...this is ground that was last grazed a year ago...so pretty wild as got zero fert....

Nope - looked it up meself there a while ago...

Req state “6. Parcels cannot be cut for hay or silage.“

grange mac

Can you cut a lipp? Lets for argument say I want to make hay from it....but dont have hay as an option...just the LIPP...this is ground that was last grazed a year ago...so pretty wild as got zero fert....

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blue5000 wrote: »

WBC is in need of a wet week around here anyway. When can we cut trad hay meadow?

1st of July although representations were made to Minister Creed to bring the cutting date forward to this week to suit the good weather. He has as yet declined to allow this to happen.

blue5000

WBC is in need of a wet week around here anyway. When can we cut trad hay meadow?

Muckit

Danzy wrote: »

Do you have WBC how is that going.

No l didnt go for WBC option. Natural clover has gone mad this year with heat anywhere that was grazed tight in the spring

Danzy

Muckit wrote: »

Some of my LIPP

It really shows how the intensification of farming has changed the food supply for bees etc.

There is probably more flowing plants in an acre of that than in many 100 acre farms.

It is a lovely shot.

Do you have WBC how is that going.

Muckit

Some of my LIPP

High bike

blue5000 wrote: »

Just back from moving mine to the next paddock. Sometimes during the year the grass keeps the cattle right and at other times of the year the cattle keep the grass right.

jaysus no waste there,I’m trying to get the cows to eat grass that’s gone a bit strong but strip grazing and they’r not happy😊

Danzy

So the Kale is well in to seed at this stage, set last year in May.

My question is that given it is a 2 year crop, and is now in seed in its second year, all natural and to plan, won't it then die off and leave nothing behind, which is natural too.

If I had an inspection in a month or 6, there will be no sign of Kale ever being set.

blue5000

KatyMac wrote: »

Same here - fields in LIPP are in a horrible state, have a young lad coming next week with a weedlicker and I can't wait! The minute I'm out of the GLAS contract every inch of my farm is going to be sprayed. Farming by calendar dates is a cod. If you don't get topped by mid March you have to spend the next 4 months watching the rushes waving at you - hate it:(. Was looking yesterday at trees that I planted while in REPS and they are a whole lot more use to than letting weeds/rushes take over.
I'm in a KT group and keep dodging the 'farm visit' as Green farmer says 'it would be worse than embarrasing'

moll3 wrote: »

Attachment not found.this is what i let the hefiers in to yesterday LIPP :mad:

Just back from moving mine to the next paddock. Sometimes during the year the grass keeps the cattle right and at other times of the year the cattle keep the grass right.

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Western Pomise wrote: »

Am a bit confused......I thought you were not allowed do any spraying of rushes etc in Glas at all....or are you allowed to if you are doing the LIPP as one of your measures?

From memory you can control rushes (only) by mechanical means i.e. weed licking or spot spraying. Noxious weeds can be controlled by spot spraying otherwise pesticides are not allowed to be used in LIPP

Western Pomise

KatyMac wrote: »

Same here - fields in LIPP are in a horrible state, have a young lad coming next week with a weedlicker and I can't wait! The minute I'm out of the GLAS contract every inch of my farm is going to be sprayed. Farming by calendar dates is a cod. If you don't get topped by mid March you have to spend the next 4 months watching the rushes waving at you - hate it:(. Was looking yesterday at trees that I planted while in REPS and they are a whole lot more use to than letting weeds/rushes take over.
I'm in a KT group and keep dodging the 'farm visit' as Green farmer says 'it would be worse than embarrasing'

Am a bit confused......I thought you were not allowed do any spraying of rushes etc in Glas at all....or are you allowed to if you are doing the LIPP as one of your measures?

yosemitesam1

Bass Reeves wrote: »

If you are making money out of GLAS why be embarrassed. Lots of lads chasing there tails to make the 3-4k that reps may leave you. Remember to top it every time when you get a chance when not in the GLAS window. A topping late in the year will leave the rushes roots exposed to frost. The licker will weaken the rushes anyway and hit the high weeds.

With that type of land it is hard to make 1-150/ acre that LIPP will give you

Too much topping is also a bad thing. It should be used as sparingly as possible or else it is paving the way for weeds and unproductive grasses to dominate

Neddyusa

sea12 wrote: »

It's s pity they don't let u swap traditional hay meadows and llip around. I grazed the hay fiends late in the spring but then the grass in the llip fields is after jumping ahead and some are gone into meadows. There will be some waste.
After a fodder crisis it seems crazy

This.
A lot of stupidity behind the GLAS rules - but this has to be one of the worst of them.

blue5000

moll3 wrote: »

Attachment not found.this is what i let the hefiers in to yesterday LIPP :mad:

kk.man wrote: »

Join the club !

+2, have everything I can graze on mine at the minute to try and get it under control. I will bale and wrap elsewhere later in the month. On the other hand being able to graze the hay meadow for an extra 2 weeks will hopefully improve the quality a bit compared to last year.

sea12

It's s pity they don't let u swap traditional hay meadows and llip around. I grazed the hay fiends late in the spring but then the grass in the llip fields is after jumping ahead and some are gone into meadows. There will be some waste.
After a fodder crisis it seems crazy

kk.man

moll3 wrote: »

Attachment not found.this is what i let the hefiers in to yesterday LIPP :mad:

Join the club !

moll3

Attachment not found.this is what i let the hefiers in to yesterday LIPP :mad:

Birdnuts

Looks like there will be significant changes to agri-environment schemes in the new CAP. More money will be on offer but there will be alot closer attention to "results" and thankfully schemes will be more "targeted" in terms of suiting the needs of each regions ecology. Hopefully it will mean more EU Life type schemes that have been so successful in the Burren and elsewhere

kk.man

drive it wrote: »

I have rented land in glas and the one I'm renting of is only after getting a lad to top about 8 acres around the house after me telling her I cant do it until start of July . Is there any way I could get out of glas at the end of this year without penalty that is if I don't get nailed for it before then.

Off the top of my head I read somewhere that if you leave it prematurely you repay all monies received bar force majeure situation.
That was some cheek to do that to land u rent. In theory she could be held liable for any penalties you might incur.

drive it

I have rented land in glas and the one I'm renting of is only after getting a lad to top about 8 acres around the house after me telling her I cant do it until start of July . Is there any way I could get out of glas at the end of this year without penalty that is if I don't get nailed for it before then.

KatyMac

tanko wrote: »

Luckily theres no farm visits in the current KT scheme like there was in the last one!!!

Oh God the horror!

tanko

KatyMac wrote: »

Same here - fields in LIPP are in a horrible state, have a young lad coming next week with a weedlicker and I can't wait! The minute I'm out of the GLAS contract every inch of my farm is going to be sprayed. Farming by calendar dates is a cod. If you don't get topped by mid March you have to spend the next 4 months watching the rushes waving at you - hate it:(. Was looking yesterday at trees that I planted while in REPS and they are a whole lot more use to than letting weeds/rushes take over.
I'm in a KT group and keep dodging the 'farm visit' as Green farmer says 'it would be worse than embarrasing'

Luckily theres no farm visits in the current KT scheme like there was in the last one!!!

Bass Reeves

KatyMac wrote: »

Green farmer wrote: »

id be embarrassed letting anyone inside my gate atm. Nettles and thistles everywhere. Going to have to put a weedlicker to top of list of toys to buy.

Same here - fields in LIPP are in a horrible state, have a young lad coming next week with a weedlicker and I can't wait! The minute I'm out of the GLAS contract every inch of my farm is going to be sprayed. Farming by calendar dates is a cod. If you don't get topped by mid March you have to spend the next 4 months watching the rushes waving at you - hate it:(. Was looking yesterday at trees that I planted while in REPS and they are a whole lot more use to than letting weeds/rushes take over.
I'm in a KT group and keep dodging the 'farm visit' as Green farmer says 'it would be worse than embarrasing'

If you are making money out of GLAS why be embarrassed. Lots of lads chasing there tails to make the 3-4k that reps may leave you. Remember to top it every time when you get a chance when not in the GLAS window. A topping late in the year will leave the rushes roots exposed to frost. The licker will weaken the rushes anyway and hit the high weeds.

With that type of land it is hard to make 1-150/ acre that LIPP will give you