paw patrol wrote: » I understand why people in the LGBT want or feel the need for Pride and that's cool. So what's my gripe.... I work in a bank, the bank has reasonable policies on discrimination and respecting others etc....which I agree with. I go to work and create systems that allows the bank to function. Why then does the bank need to decorate my office with rainbow flags and posters, spam my inbox with GO PRIDE style pep talk emails, invite us to a range of events during the week and more....? Why? It's a bank. Is it too much for me to want to go to work , punch the clock and go home with my thinking of social matters being imposed upon? Why does sexuality get such promotion in a bank , there are many noble campaigns , none get this coverage or close to it. My workplace isn't alone ...I know it's happening in other companies like insurance companies and American multinationals eg, facebook, google One such company (i've a friend there) has now a sign-up where you can pledge to be an LGBT ally and receive a special lanyard to wear "with pride" ( You can see what they did there??? ) around the office. The flip side of this is that it has created a culture where those without the lanyard are being asked why not? Of course it's in an ever so polite and around about way...like "did you see the email on the lanyard" etc... LGBT and their allies are a small section of society , why must their views be imposed on me at work. Christmas doesn't get such PR in my job. I'm fairly neutral and happy to live and let live (on most matters) but this constant barrage at work makes me resent LGBT (the campaign rather than the individual people) a little. I did ask at work and I got weird looks from HR and a bland meaningless reply about equality and diversity etc.... I think I am now guilty of wrong-think and possibly a second charge of using an outdated version of newspeak.:rolleyes: in the eyes of HR. Strikes me as a corporate **** off in virtue signalling Yes I did say Virtue Signalling. happy? Is it wrong of me to want to just go to work in peace. No campaigns , promotions of any kind?
Cody montana wrote: » I'm gay, I don't celebrate it, I'm not ashamed of it, this is me. However Pride month e.t.c. is surely a piss take, load of crap. Keep this stuff out of work.
Atoms for Peace wrote: » These sorts of things have a way of turning into farcical forced groupthink. The poppy that gets foisted by the uk media is an example.
AllForIt wrote: » I'm gay and I have no problem with your wish not to take part. I haven't taken part for years...being gay is not particularly a 'thing' in my life anymore...it's just a fact of who I am. I have a life to be getting on with just like everone else. But what you are saying is that because you are not interested in the Pride event shouldn't even happen at all just cause your not interested. It's not up to you to decide it's crap on behalf of everyone else. I'm not interested in lots of things in life...take the current World Cup for example . It's all over the media non-stop and I have ppl asking me if I watched such and such a match. I couldn't be less interested even if Ireland were in it. I don't think I'm being inaccurate when I feel ppl expect me to be interested in it and I find that rather irritating but I've got used to it and I just accept that in life there will always be 'things' that a majority are interested in that I'm not, like xmas as I mentioned earlier. I'd gladly ban it just for my own sake but I wouldn't really as I know some many ppl love it and it would be a bit selfish of me to ban it if I could just cause the whole season makes me cringe. I wouldn't be the first person to think xmas is a load of commercial crap..that goes on for 2 fecking months. As I type the first headline on the TV news is a World Cup story about England winning a match. Video of fans guzzling beer and chanting. What I do is I change the channel. It'll be over before I know it.
Hector Savage wrote: » Or the diversity trainings they have at Google ... check out James Damore interviews to see what hell it is in there.
yesto24 wrote: » My wife had this problem in work as well. Now let me be clear she spent a lot of time in London in the 90s where she was a fag hag. She is still friends with a lot of these guys now. So when this pride nonsense rolls around each year and her company is boarding the diversity bandwagon she just ignores it. If challenged, she just tells them she "was friends with gay people before it was cool", or more depressingly for her before you were born.
evil_seed wrote: » Last year was my first time attending anything to do with pride and the march itself was just float after float for corporates around dublin. it was a logo competition, nothing to do with inclusiveness and love and acceptance. Also, if I can add my gripe, it's turning into a fetish show very gradually.
topper75 wrote: » Interesting contrast there: She was friends with them - genuine friendship, the giving and taking and all that goes with it. Came at a cost potentially because these folks weren't always seen as cool at that time. Outside of friendship returned, no gain for her. Look then at the lanyard people and contrast the self-centered nature of it. No direct help to others. Just a virtue signal. It's for them really. Hollow corporate ****e.
yesto24 wrote: » I know you are trying to make a joke and doing it badly. But these are not the same. One is a holiday that is came about out of centuries of tradition and life, that is essentially a mid winter festival based on the length of the day, that by its nature is inclusive. As of you a living here you suffer the short days of winter no matter what relegion (of peace) you have or none. The other is now a corporate event that even questioning can get you called homophobic. That some see a propaganda and other see as just bandwagon jumping.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » This the guy who tried to claim that women were less able biologically to be engineers? Not really a shining beacon to hold up as an example of anything.
HappyAsLarE wrote: » Was he not claiming that women have less interest to be engineers?
kunst nugget wrote: » If it was your first time attending how do you know it's gradually turning into a fetish show? You could say it's a fetish show gradually turning into a Paddy's Day parade…
evil_seed wrote: » Because I have eyes. I seen the pride parade plenty, but last year I actually walked in it. Does that clear it up for you?
spurious wrote: » Exactly, if the bank are appearing to 'include' a group of people, it's because they think there is money to be made. All those gayers getting married now and wanting mortgages.
kunst nugget wrote: » I haven't seen Dublin Pride in years but any big gay event I ever attended back going back to the 90s would have had a fair bit of fetish gear on show.
kunst nugget wrote: » His assertions were based on there being biological differences that meant women weren't as interested in or as capable of being engineers.https://thedoctorweighsin.com/was-james-damore-right-about-women-in-tech/
TG1 wrote: » I work in HR. In a previous role a member of the workforce approached us about celebrating pride in the office. There was a small budget given and the employee in question organised a few decorations. All very low key, but a nice way to celebrate diversity in the company. Another member of the workforce complained, and the CEO stepped in and refused to allow the decorations. I had to be the one to explain to the employee who had approached us that actually a colleague had gone out of their way to object to it, and as a result we couldn't celebrate our diverse workforce.Don't be that person who complains, it's a week of decorations and lanyards, not torture...
professore wrote: » The OPs problem is he actually is interested in real equality and diversity. He thinks of people as individuals. Not "equality and diversity" rammed down his throat from above and only applied to certain select groups.
HappyAsLarE wrote: » I find it ironic that those that peddle diversity also want equality. Diverse inputs will cause inequitable results in any system.
doylefe wrote: » Christmas is banned where I work. Must use the term "Holidays" and all imagery of winter snow or Christmas decorations are not allowed in inter company communications.
J Mysterio wrote: » lol. Thats completely fucķin retarded.