Sunny Disposition wrote: » The Pride thing is becoming tacky when banks are promoting it. The time for them to do that was pre 2000 when there was genuinely a lot of disrespect for the gay community. The battle has been won now and corporates are along for the feel good factor. Bit of reputation laundering I suspect, banks are not held in high esteem nowadays and with very good reason.
end of the road wrote: » i never said the bank was doing anything illegal. however i do believe it should remain nutral in terms of social issues, like any work place.
wes wrote: » Equality isn't a political point of view. Pride is apolitical unless your a bigot.
Cabaal wrote: » its not really a social issue, its something thats perfectly legal in Ireland. The company is just promoting equality. Do you think promoting equality is bad? Also, do you think abortion is murder and why did you previously say it was and then wasn't, (since you refuse to answer this question)
_Dara_ wrote: » If you’re singled out for not overtly supporting something, it moves into the political realm. Note that not overtly supporting something doesn’t mean you don’t support it.
Cabaal wrote: » its not really a social issue, its something thats perfectly legal in Ireland. i never said it was illegal. Cabaal wrote: » Do you think promoting equality is bad? no i don't, but i don't believe decorations/stickers or any other nonsense like that is needed to promote equality. IMO it has the potential to take away from the actual cause and in the odd case, has the potential to lead to a culture of shaming and suspicion toards people who would support such causes, but who wouldn't be interested in sloganry or symbolry.
Cabaal wrote: » Do you think promoting equality is bad?
Blaas4life wrote: » What's a lanyard?
wes wrote: » Yeah, if someone is being singled out, which is not happening. Its just people trying to paint themselves as being some kind of victim. Plenty of people were I work aren't taken part in pride events and no one gives a crap. I am not taking part either, and no one has said a word to me. Not a single person cares either way. People can partake in events if they want to or not.
_Dara_ wrote: » We don’t know if the OP is lying or not about his friend’s company. If what he says is true, then people are being judged.
Malayalam wrote: » Follow the Money. ''Target Audiences''... The Grey Pound = older people The Pink Pound = LGBT+ people The Green Pound = Eco-conscious people The Blue/Purple Pound = Differently-abled people The Red Pound = Plus-sized aka Curvy people The Brown Pound = Ethnic minority people. The answer is usually money.
Atlantic Dawn wrote: » A lot of these companies embracing Pride are the very same companies who no longer refer to Christmas, they simply call this period of time "the holidays" so as not to offend any non Christians, inclusiveness me hole. Should there be a lanyard created with all possible causes included that every single member of staff might be partial to? I certainly would not wear a lanyard which may cause offence to someone in the office.
leggo wrote: » Is it though? Or is it more like you hear presenters of football shows talk about how fans of every club complain that commentators and analysts are biased against their own clubs? Like look at repeal for example: I don’t think anyone, whatever side you were on, expected that result. I think most people’s perception was that it was going to be 50-50 either way, and that perception was set - credit where it’s due - by the mainstream media doing its job and airing an equal amount of both sides’ views (even it enraged people on both sides in doing so). Personally I think, if we’re really breaking it down, it’s more like everyone these days is addicted to likes or thanks or whatever form of praise it is on whatever medium because that’s almost become a form of social currency now. We know we can make much more empassioned compelling points about things we disagree with (and get those precious thumbs up, or trolling, reactions, whatever anyone’s individual kink is) so we seek out arguments over stuff we disagree with and, thus, expose ourselves to it more and wind ourselves up to oblivion. I’m just as guilty btw, even if I can point it out. Like you perceive boards as not an echo chamber of the current popular opinions, my own current personal perception of boards is that it’s just an echo chamber for gender arguments now and anti-whatever everyone on Twitter likes. And I’m sure that’s not the case, it’s just what I choose to click into subconsciously, so that perception is my own fault. I’m sure I’d have a different view if I spent all my time here floating around the darts or gardening forums.
wes wrote: » People lie on the Internet all the time. My general position is not to trust them unless they provide evidence.
_Dara_ wrote: » wes wrote: » People lie on the Internet all the time. My general position is not to trust them unless they provide evidence. When it comes to messageboards, I’m the opposite. My view is that people have no reason to lie. If you go in suspicious, then you can just dismiss anything you don’t want to believe. The day before the 8th ref in my husband’s workplace, a debate started on one of the teams. It was like 8 for yes, 2 for no. My husband (a yes voter) said it was uncomfortable the way the no voters were ganged up on. One yes voter in particular would not let it go. You’re dreaming if you think things like this can’t happen in workplaces and companies taking a particular stance can only embolden people further.
paw patrol wrote: » I understand why people in the LGBT want or feel the need for Pride and that's cool. So what's my gripe.... I work in a bank, the bank has reasonable policies on discrimination and respecting others etc....which I agree with. I go to work and create systems that allows the bank to function. Why then does the bank need to decorate my office with rainbow flags and posters, spam my inbox with GO PRIDE style pep talk emails, invite us to a range of events during the week and more....? Why? It's a bank. Is it too much for me to want to go to work , punch the clock and go home with my thinking of social matters being imposed upon? Why does sexuality get such promotion in a bank , there are many noble campaigns , none get this coverage or close to it. My workplace isn't alone ...I know it's happening in other companies like insurance companies and American multinationals eg, facebook, google One such company (i've a friend there) has now a sign-up where you can pledge to be an LGBT ally and receive a special lanyard to wear "with pride" ( You can see what they did there??? ) around the office. The flip side of this is that it has created a culture where those without the lanyard are being asked why not? Of course it's in an ever so polite and around about way...like "did you see the email on the lanyard" etc... LGBT and their allies are a small section of society , why must their views be imposed on me at work. Christmas doesn't get such PR in my job. I'm fairly neutral and happy to live and let live (on most matters) but this constant barrage at work makes me resent LGBT (the campaign rather than the individual people) a little. I did ask at work and I got weird looks from HR and a bland meaningless reply about equality and diversity etc.... I think I am now guilty of wrong-think and possibly a second charge of using an outdated version of newspeak.:rolleyes: in the eyes of HR. Strikes me as a corporate **** off in virtue signalling Yes I did say Virtue Signalling. happy? Is it wrong of me to want to just go to work in peace. No campaigns , promotions of any kind?
jcorr wrote: » Just ignore them. It's work.....
lawred2 wrote: » Not sure how the decoration affects you in the slightest really... It's easily ignored
Joeytheparrot wrote: » You can easily delete an email and decline invites too
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