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Preppers R Us

realitykeeper

This thread is intended to discuss the merits of self sufficiency. Also, any preppers with ideas or suggestions about self sufficiency and general prepping for doomsday type scenarios please post here.

To get things started, here are my observations on foraging vs gardening. Each spring/summer time for the past few years I have tried my hand at foraging from nature. It eventually dawned on me that foraging just won`t cut it in a time of extreme scarcity. I have therefore started planting fruit trees, berry bushes and a vegetable plot. Obviously in cities there is not a lot of nature to forage from but even in the countryside, you can grow far more on an 8th of an acre than you could hope to gather by foraging the surrounding area.

A small garden cannot provide all your food needs but in a time of economic depression, it could make the difference between starvation and sufficiency.

Reliance on the water and electricity grid also makes one vulnerable. For example, if an economic depression, war, natural disaster or trade war were to prevent the importation of oil, people would either have to generate their own electricity/drill their own water well or go without. Same goes for food. Ireland is unnecessarily reliant on imported veg and fruit when so much of it could be grown here as a safeguard against disaster. Am I wrong?

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realitykeeper wrote: »

Am I wrong?

yes

Obi_Wan_Kenobi

I have always been interested in this , and how to survive for minimal expense in the wild.
I have a fantasy where I just feck off and move to a cabin in Alaska.

Of course this looks attractive now, but I'd say winters up in Alaska would just have me do a James Woods and say FFFUUUCCCCKKKK THIS !!!

umop episdn

I hated can't cook, won't cook... never wanted to be a green prepper

weisses

A whole forum exists on how to make tinfoil hats, and tips how to live in that reality

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1514

Chaos Tourist

Doomsday type scenarios? I don't think I'd want to be alive in a post apocalyptic world. That sounds grim. So maybe keep a few cyanide pills handy.

PokeHerKing

weisses wrote:

A whole forum exists on how to make tinfoil hats, and tips how to live in that reality

Yes wars, famines and economic depressions. Stuff of make believe.

weisses

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Yes wars, famines and economic depressions. Stuff of make believe.

2012 has past ... No need for shelters in missile silos .... etc, Nothing wrong with having a veg plot though

realitykeeper

Chaos Tourist wrote: »

Doomsday type scenarios? I don't think I'd want to be alive in a post apocalyptic world. That sounds grim. So maybe keep a few cyanide pills handy.

... but some people have responsibilities so that would not be an option. Besides, suicide is a sin.

Seth Brundle

realitykeeper wrote: »

A small garden cannot provide all your food needs but in a time of economic depression, it could make the difference between starvation and sufficiency.

I find having fruit trees and bushes allows me to just about keep going in those dark times when Tesco is closed!

Franz Von Peppercorn

If any major economic disaster happens then most of us are doomed. If society collapses we are doomed. What you need in those situations is not to be a good scavenger or gardener but belong to a gang with better guns or better weaponry than the other guys so you can raid them, a la the vikings or control then a la the Normans.

kneemos

Bugs,birds,fish,plenty of rabbits,cows,deer,the whole place is a virtual open air Buffett.

Alf Veedersane

kneemos wrote: »

Bugs,birds,fish,plenty of rabbits,cows,deer,the whole place is a virtual open air Buffett.

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Well after the recent snowmaggedon, it's doesn't take long to disrupt the food system, 2 weeks without delivery for any reason and the shelves would be bare. They were bulldozing shops and looting 4 days in, imagine 2 or 3 weeks without supplies.

realitykeeper

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

If any major economic disaster happens then most of us are doomed. If society collapses we are doomed. What you need in those situations is not to be a good scavenger or gardener but belong to a gang with better guns or better weaponry than the other guys so you can raid them, a la the vikings or control then a la the Normans.

but the more raiders (vs growers) you have, the less there is to raid. Besides, pillaging is a sin.

corner of hells

Mathew Large Snot wrote: »

Well after the recent snowmaggedon, it's doesn't take long to disrupt the food system, 2 weeks without delivery for any reason and the shelves would be bare. They were bulldozing shops and looting 4 days in, imagine 2 or 3 weeks without supplies.

I think you'll find the defence of those young men will contend they were looking at life from a doomsday scenario when they bulldozed that shop.

Wanderer78

realitykeeper wrote:

but the more raiders (vs growers) you have, the less there is to raid. Besides, pillaging is a sin.

I'm not sure if starving people would care too much about sinning

realitykeeper

kneemos wrote: »

Bugs,birds,fish,plenty of rabbits,cows,deer,the whole place is a virtual open air Buffett.

Yes, during Argentina`s economic crisis, people hijacked trucks carrying animals and slaughtered the pigs on the street. People who had been middle class had to look for food in the city dump. On the other hands, other Argentines took to producing something in order to barter it. That is a source of hope. Ireland produces far more meat than it can consume (which would present a difficulty if the system of trade were to be impeded for any reason). Also, distributing and preserving meat would be a challenge if oil imports are disrupted for more than a few months. The Irish cannot live on meat alone, most fruit and veg are imported.

realitykeeper

Wanderer78 wrote: »

I'm not sure if starving people would care too much about sinning

Perhaps not but stealing is still a sin.

wexie

Obi_Wan_Kenobi wrote: »

I have always been interested in this , and how to survive for minimal expense in the wild.
I have a fantasy where I just feck off and move to a cabin in Alaska.

Of course this looks attractive now, but I'd say winters up in Alaska would just have me do a James Woods and say FFFUUUCCCCKKKK THIS !!!

Yeah if you're going to do something like that I'd suggest perhaps doing it somewhere you're not likely to be snowed in and frozen 6 months of the year.

Wanderer78

realitykeeper wrote:

Perhaps not but it is still a sin.

I'm not getting at what you're saying?terms such as 'sin' are only truly used to strike fear into society, they are effectively meaningless, particularly in this context, people would do almost anything to stay alive in such an extreme situation, even murder.

JohnnyFlash

I heard a few sniffs of it makes you high for about 30 seconds and causes your butthole to relax.

Benjamin Buttons

realitykeeper wrote: »

Perhaps not but stealing is still a sin.

"Amen, amen, I say to you: If any man keep my word, he shall not see death forever."

—John 8:51

corner of hells

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I heard a few sniffs of it makes you high for about 30 seconds and causes your butthole to relax.

Erm , are you in the right thread ?

[Deleted User]

corner of hells wrote: »

Erm , are you in the right thread ?

Preppers / Poppers

[Deleted User]

This thread inspired me to go through OP's other threads.. What a trip.

corner of hells

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Preppers / Poppers

Oh , sweet Jesus.

J Mysterio

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Should open an underground restaurant and call it Warren Buffet.

Twenty Grand

You can't live off the land anymore

Impossible since near every acre is farmland.

[Deleted User]

Prepping is all well and good but if you're not well-armed you're just providing for someone else.

Feisar

It doesn't have to be a TEOTWAWKI type situation. One should have enough resources to survive for three days without outside help. I.E. have enough food and water to survive. Like look at the run we had on bread and milk after a shake of snow!