mcmoustache wrote: » Trump is doing a "Crimes of Mexicans" speech thing going on now. It's a bit weird.
spacecoyote wrote: » Interesting one. A Rhode island bill has been put forward stating that no candidate may be put on a ballot without releasing 5 years of tax returns. Can't see trumpy being too happy about that!!!
dpd666 wrote: » Nothing odd there all immigrants bad playing to his base ? If he was going on about how positive immigrants were I would say it was odd.
mcmoustache wrote: » I see that you're not familiar with populist fear mongering. Fair enough but I'm not that young. It's like when breitbart had the black-people crime section. I just expected less transparent propaganda. By the way, do you remember PepefrogOK?
dpd666 wrote: » Did breitbart present the FBI figures and all the relevant crime statistics. Facts dot lie. I'm old enough to remember the whole WMD nonsense. And Obama, Hilary and loads of others banging on about Illegal immigrants.
Captain Obvious wrote: » Facts don't lie but they can be used very effectively to support a lie when presented out of context.
dpd666 wrote: » Would that be like presenting black people being disproportionately on the end of white violence. When in actual fact it's black on black violence that is the issue ? But this is a rabbit hole.
Captain Obvious wrote: » Sure.
dpd666 wrote: » So are you saying that is factually inaccurate ? The FBI and crime statistics don't lie. As a black person in a black neighbourhood I would be more worried about being shot or assaulted by a fellow black person than some random white guy.
everlast75 wrote: » Unless the white guy was a cop....
dpd666 wrote: » everlast75 wrote: » Unless the white guy was a cop.... As a white person I would be more worried about being shot by a white cop. They shoot far more white people.
Christy42 wrote: » I like it. You call it a rabbit hole and then keep going down it. Anything but talk about Trump. The only way to defend the man is to hint that stuff Trump has admitted to doing didn't happen (chucking kids in cells) and to talk about anything but Trump himself when the man starts stirring up hatred of foreigners. Oh for your statistics look up relative probability and start a thread on that then.
dpd666 wrote: » Have no issue with that, Does it include declaring any offshore stuff in tax havens ? Would love to see them have to present a full financial package too detailing what their involved in and where their money is. I know they have to declare some interests. But tbh what will it do, Trump already got in.
Call Me Jimmy wrote: » Anyone else see that the girl on the cover of Time magazine wasn't separated from her mother? It seems whatever you are trying to argue, it would help if your propaganda supported your point at the very least. I haven't seen a post about it?
Nox wrote: » OK … my opinion is that I will assume nothing. What you are trying to do is go off on some tangent. I stand by what I have twice previously stated … many people can cry on demand. Once before I stated that I was not there and I have no idea what the crying was about. All of the hypotheticals which are being tossed my way are just that … hypothetical. And some recording played on a supposed 'news channel' proves nothing other than crying. Another poster stupidly asked about myself and 4-year-olds. Yep, been there and done that … also have had the misfortune of listening to temper tantrums. Lots of crying there in case you haven't yet had the misfortune of being around one. Oh yeah, I've also heard the crying from the "will work for food" panhandlers wearing their Nike's and cargo pants. Talk about crying on demand. I don't need to or want to know YOUR opinion … you've made it crystal clear already. BTW … have you been to the border to get a first hand look or are you just gobbling up the press pablum?
dpd666 wrote: » Christy42 wrote: » I like it. You call it a rabbit hole and then keep going down it. Anything but talk about Trump. The only way to defend the man is to hint that stuff Trump has admitted to doing didn't happen (chucking kids in cells) and to talk about anything but Trump himself when the man starts stirring up hatred of foreigners. Oh for your statistics look up relative probability and start a thread on that then. Hang on where have I defended Trump ? probability skews the statistics. And the statistics don't lie.
mattser wrote: » Surprised that the devotees of Mrs. Clinton haven't reminded us that she's in Dublin. Talking the usual grass growing agent.
WinnyThePoo wrote: » Well this the Donald trump thread. Im sure you could update us on Mrs Clintons schedule in a Hillary Clinton thread.
StringerBell wrote: » The only devotees of Mrs. Clinton are the likes of you who bring her up each and every chance you get. Its pathetic, and funny. Not as pathetic as many of the posts from the other one who thinks they are significantly more intelligent than the evidence suggests, but a good second place rather than a distant one.
mattser wrote: » I would if people thought she was worthy of one.
spacecoyote wrote: » It's kind of an incidental point really. The point of the photo is not "Look what Trump did to one girl". It's just a strong image that makes a point. If there was a poster of Hitler like that with a random jewish child who wasn't actually in a concentration camp it wouldn't change the facts of what happened
spacecoyote wrote: » It's kind of an incidental point really. The point of the photo is not "Look what Trump did to one girl". It's just a strong image that makes a point.
If there was a poster of Hitler like that with a random jewish child who wasn't actually in a concentration camp it wouldn't change the facts of what happened
Leroy42 wrote: » Are you really saying Nox that you couldn't envisage children without their parents crying without being done on purpose? Seriously, that you would need to be in that situation to see if it was possible. You don't need to assume anything. We know that children are heavily reliant on having the knowledge that their parent is close by. Even when playing they will look occassionally to ensure that the parent is still around. And that they become panicked and scared when lost. Have you never witnessed a child separated from its parent in a shopping centre? It is simply not credible for you to claim any of that. The only conclusion is that you are avoiding admitting it as it doesn't suit the narrative you are trying to state.