beef price tracker

riemann wrote: »

That'll be 3.80 soon enough (by August), brace yourself.

Let's just hope it doesn't go any lower.

Not sure if they will manage to pull it that low by August. Grass cattle still very scarce and will remain so for 3-5 weeks. 2014 was the same and prices rose in July until cattle came on stream processors actually guaranteed a price to regular sellers on late August so as to drop prices to smaller producers

cute geoge

o/p Cows are back to €3.30/3.40 and talk is that another 10 cent drop is on the cards

kk.man

Bass Reeves wrote: »

riemann wrote: »

That'll be 3.80 soon enough (by August), brace yourself.

Let's just hope it doesn't go any lower.

Not sure if they will manage to pull it that low by August. Grass cattle still very scarce and will remain so for 3-5 weeks. 2014 was the same and prices rose in July until cattle came on stream processors actually guaranteed a price to regular sellers on late August so as to drop prices to smaller producers

My agent confirmed as much. Grass cattle scarce and no major price drops on the cards.

Willfarman

If England progresses in the World Cup they’ll be mad for the burgers after the beer.. we won’t see 3.80 until late September!

locha wrote: »

Best I could manage was 4.10 base for steers. Being killed tomorrow

Ya same as that . Sent a few off today. Don't know how they faired out yet

gerryirl wrote: »

Ya same as that . Sent a few off today. Don't know how they faired out yet

Processors mopping up cattle at 4.1, but lots of lads holding out as well. Heard that most agents are scouting as to report back numbers that are around. But agents are struggling only managing to pick up small numbers here and there. That is ok as long as the no poaching rule is obeyed.

cute geoge

I heard cows are back 10 cent again next week

Bass Reeves wrote: »

gerryirl wrote: »

Ya same as that . Sent a few off today. Don't know how they faired out yet

Processors mopping up cattle at 4.1, but lots of lads holding out as well. Heard that most agents are scouting as to report back numbers that are around. But agents are struggling only managing to pick up small numbers here and there. That is ok as long as the no poaching rule is obeyed.

4.10 for next week also according to agent. Have a few coming to 30mts start of July.

dryan

Quoted 4.10 base for bullocks also earlier today - Midlands.

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

4.10 for next week also according to agent. Have a few coming to 30mts start of July.

Heard 4.10 for early in the week and 4.05 after that. Kill was up 2k last week and supply is nearly the same as last year year except that under 30 month cattle are scarce.

got 4.10 base .. hard to know what to buy after how I got on yesterday. Long story how I ended up with a bullock . I bought him this time last year not the type of bullock that I would even look at. he was an AA friesian cross. The worst looking thing you could ever come on. Killed yesterday got 4.37 a kg for him only 22 months not eating €50 nuts id say and got €1630 for him. I got over €1900 for other good quality cattle but they have it long gone with all the nuts they ate

Danzy

gerryirl wrote: »

got 4.10 base .. hard to know what to buy after how I got on yesterday. Long story how I ended up with a bullock . I bought him this time last year not the type of bullock that I would even look at. he was an AA friesian cross. The worst looking thing you could ever come on. Killed yesterday got 4.37 a kg for him only 22 months not eating €50 nuts id say and got €1630 for him. I got over €1900 for other good quality cattle but they have it long gone with all the nuts they ate

I was recently at a place where a fellow was finishing Friesian bullocks at 26-28 months, he buys them in, in April to June and kills the following June. We weren't talking British friesians, but he still had an eye for them.

He was doing well off it.

The beautiful bullock is the one that leaves something rather than has a lovely arse.

I found that finishing Continental cattle, at big weights was too intense on the ground, a pain drawing ration for a long time and dear to buy.

Different strokes for different folks. (we wont talk about the three Belgian Blue/Friesian crosses I bought for a reasonable price)

Danzy wrote: »

gerryirl wrote: »

got 4.10 base .. hard to know what to buy after how I got on yesterday. Long story how I ended up with a bullock . I bought him this time last year not the type of bullock that I would even look at. he was an AA friesian cross. The worst looking thing you could ever come on. Killed yesterday got 4.37 a kg for him only 22 months not eating €50 nuts id say and got €1630 for him. I got over €1900 for other good quality cattle but they have it long gone with all the nuts they ate

I was recently at a place where a fellow was finishing Friesian bullocks at 26-28 months, he buys them in, in April to June and kills the following June. We weren't talking British friesians, but he still had an eye for them.

He was doing well off it.

The beautiful bullock is the one that leaves something rather than has a lovely arse.

I found that finishing Continental cattle, at big weights was too intense on the ground, a pain drawing ration for a long time and dear to buy.

Different strokes for different folks. (we wont talk about the three Belgian Blue/Friesian crosses I bought for a reasonable price)

It's about bottom line, not what neighbours think looking over the wall!

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Danzy wrote: »

gerryirl wrote: »

got 4.10 base .. hard to know what to buy after how I got on yesterday. Long story how I ended up with a bullock . I bought him this time last year not the type of bullock that I would even look at. he was an AA friesian cross. The worst looking thing you could ever come on. Killed yesterday got 4.37 a kg for him only 22 months not eating €50 nuts id say and got €1630 for him. I got over €1900 for other good quality cattle but they have it long gone with all the nuts they ate

I was recently at a place where a fellow was finishing Friesian bullocks at 26-28 months, he buys them in, in April to June and kills the following June. We weren't talking British friesians, but he still had an eye for them.

He was doing well off it.

The beautiful bullock is the one that leaves something rather than has a lovely arse.

I found that finishing Continental cattle, at big weights was too intense on the ground, a pain drawing ration for a long time and dear to buy.

Different strokes for different folks. (we wont talk about the three Belgian Blue/Friesian crosses I bought for a reasonable price)

It's about bottom line, not what neighbours think looking over the wall!

Neighbour asked the missus last week...does that lad of yours not buy good cattle like your auld lad used to!!

Danzy

Good cattle are often just good for Larry and friends.

Doesn't mean you should bargain basement all the way but the cost of some continentals in the mart makes f all sense.

There are square Friesians at around 375 KGs going for handy in marts these days, poorer ones are often at joke prices. 50-200 with weight.

They'll have some weight August 2019.

charolais0153

gerryirl wrote: »

got 4.10 base .. hard to know what to buy after how I got on yesterday. Long story how I ended up with a bullock . I bought him this time last year not the type of bullock that I would even look at. he was an AA friesian cross. The worst looking thing you could ever come on. Killed yesterday got 4.37 a kg for him only 22 months not eating €50 nuts id say and got €1630 for him. I got over €1900 for other good quality cattle but they have it long gone with all the nuts they ate

Then why are you buying nuts of it doesnt pay?

charolais0153 wrote: »

Then why are you buying nuts of it doesnt pay?

cause I have too much money and rather than blow it in the casino or on the dogs I spend it on nuts

maybe I should rephrase what I was trying to say in the thread so . I meant the lads at over €1900 had plenty of nuts ate compared to the bullock I mentioned at the €1600. But yes the nuts did pay just on some not as much which is what happens

Danzy wrote: »

Good cattle are often just good for Larry and friends.

Doesn't mean you should bargain basement all the way but the cost of some continentals in the mart makes f all sense.

There are square Friesians at around 375 KGs going for handy in marts these days, poorer ones are often at joke prices. 50-200 with weight.

They'll have some weight August 2019.

agree with you there but its ok for them sort of cattle when beef is over €4, when the price is bad thats when you could get stuck. no harm and odd few though

kk.man

I know of a man buying good forward stores and he is making a good living from them. You must remember these are coming into 1800 or 1900 at present prices. Plus the factory know it's got the best cuts off these animals.

Danzy

gerryirl wrote: »

agree with you there but its ok for them sort of cattle when beef is over €4, when the price is bad thats when you could get stuck. no harm and odd few though

Spreading the bets is a necessity.

Fields here are turning buí, sure could be dry for a month.

Nature can step in on the lovely calculations.

Danzy wrote: »

Nature can step in on the lovely calculations.

So can the factories.:D

gerryirl wrote: »

agree with you there but its ok for them sort of cattle when beef is over €4, when the price is bad thats when you could get stuck. no harm and odd few though

you will never lose with those type of cattle for present money. You just have to target your market. At 375kgs now they could be 550kgs at housing. If you have them in the yard at 600 euro, even at 650 you cannot lose. Decent Friesians killing 350kgs at present will come into 1350 euro, that a 7-750 gross margin in 12 months.

cute geoge

I bought a few fr year and half last november 500 kg came in at €750 they got a good due and the last of them went a fortnight ago ,they averaged €1200 .I can not figure what you would need to feed them to get them to average 350 kg kill out not to mind to get them to grade for qa bonus .I think few and far fr under 30 month bullock will kill any way near 350 kg !!!

cute geoge wrote: »

I bought a few fr year and half last november 500 kg came in at €750 they got a good due and the last of them went a fortnight ago ,they averaged €1200 .I can not figure what you would need to feed them to get them to average 350 kg kill out not to mind to get them to grade for qa bonus .I think few and far fr under 30 month bullock will kill any way near 350 kg !!!

Look back 40 posts.

CHOPS01

Bass Reeves wrote: »

you will never lose with those type of cattle for present money. You just have to target your market. At 375kgs now they could be 550kgs at housing. If you have them in the yard at 600 euro, even at 650 you cannot lose. Decent Friesians killing 350kgs at present will come into 1350 euro, that a 7-750 gross margin in 12 months.

Checked dates last night on the HEx bullock i killed during the week. Mid April last year he was 398kg and landed in the yard costing €890. Killed last week at 371kg and returned €1506 after deductions. I'd be happy if i could return the same on all of them. Obviiosly the time of year he was killed was a huge bonus. 3 more to go in the next fortnight and will aim from now on to try have a few ready this time of year.

cute geoge wrote: »

I bought a few fr year and half last november 500 kg came in at €750 they got a good due and the last of them went a fortnight ago ,they averaged €1200 .I can not figure what you would need to feed them to get them to average 350 kg kill out not to mind to get them to grade for qa bonus .I think few and far fr under 30 month bullock will kill any way near 350 kg !!!

First off this is not an average year, cattle are at least 30kgs lighter than normal and that is just factoring in the spring. A 375kg bullock now should put on at least 150kgs and with a good autumn you could add another 25kgs. Let him add another 32-40kgs during housing(120 days) and get him to grass in early March. Feed him 3kg of ration from mid April and he be fit in early June.

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Look back 40 posts.

He got them to a tad heavier

CHOPS01 wrote: »

Checked dates last night on the HEx bullock i killed during the week. Mid April last year he was 398kg and landed in the yard costing €890. Killed last week at 371kg and returned €1506 after deductions. I'd be happy if i could return the same on all of them. Obviiosly the time of year he was killed was a huge bonus. 3 more to go in the next fortnight and will aim from now on to try have a few ready this time of year.

He was about 725-730 LW so he did 330 kgs in 430 ish days . Taking winter and this winter into account he averaged 0.75kg/day . I expect that bullock was 600kgs at housing. If the spring was better this year he have been another 20kgs DW. He must have graded poor enough or you must have not got the HE bonus as he only made about 4.1/kg. In truth he should have been killed 2 week sooner or out of the shed.

CHOPS01

Killed at flat price 4.1/kg. Yes should have gone a fortnight sooner. Was only getting 3kg a day over the winter of a 2:1 mix barley and 16% nut. Plenty of silage and a beef lick. Over all his costs were tight so I'm happy with return

CHOPS01 wrote: »

Killed at flat price 4.1/kg. Yes should have gone a fortnight sooner. Was only getting 3kg a day over the winter of a 2:1 mix barley and 16% nut. Plenty of silage and a beef lick. Over all his costs were tight so I'm happy with return

Stores here are on silage only over the winter if they are bought at yearlings or over only ration they see is 6-8 weeks before slaughter. At the end of this winter stores did get ration but I was very low on silage and they got 3kgs and minimum silage.

riemann

Reckon this spell of slow growth will affect beef prices in the harvest?

Bodes well for early finishers