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PS4 Megathread 3.0

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Don't know what I did to the last thread to mess it up for some.

So, PS4 stuff then.

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Revoker88

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is why forum boards are dying, people can't express an opinion without some ass accusing them of being a shill. I've been just as critical of Sony as I have MS and Epic, though I guess not falling inline with the mass consensus means that I have some agenda. Can no one play devils advocate anymore, can no one ask why we don't hold all parties accountable any more or is it a case that if you are a multi billion dollar company that sign an anti consumer agreement then you can't be held responsible for screwing over your player base?

No one has asked you to play devils advocate,and tbf its more than just trying to see things from a different perspective for the sake of balance,your bias is pretty obvious.

As for schilling,in some cases its a valid comment and not designed just to shut down discussion. I certainly dont make a habbit of throwing that word around.

Sony are the platform holder,they have the largest playerbase of all the consoles. They have a massive say in how things go. They could have decided to sort out the issue by now but they have not.

Why would Epic be willing to account share accross all other platforms but then tell sony they have to sign an agreement not allowing sony's platform to do the same?

[Deleted User]

Murseyless wrote:

This is a lie Darko, you simply do not know this and your inner ideas regarding ToS between Epic, Sony and the consumer appear so defensive of Sony they appear almost delusional. I am very active across many Sony boards and you are the only person singing off this hymnsheet and it's exasperating.

Murseyless wrote:

The truth is you know as much about the matter as everyone else and the general consensus is that if Sony were screwed by Epic we'd have seen leaks or an actual commentary by Sony to take the heat of them, but they haven't and the reason they haven't is because it mostly likely is a money related issue.

Please at least read my posts before falling off your high horse to attack me. I have never once said that Epic screwed Sony, what I have repeatedly stated is that Epic screwed their user base. We all know that this is about money, in fact I've said it repeatedly but I've also pointed out the from having first hand experience of the inner workings of the big publishers that there can be other factors. I provide points from experiences I have been involved in and gave reasons why cross platform ia not just pressing a button. There are a number of legal and ToS related issues to deal with also.

I'm not defending Sony, or attacking anyone else. My post are pointing out that Epic are to blame here. They signed an agreement with Sony knowing everything relating to tied accounts and then said nothing to their user base. You cannot do something link that and then not bear the brunt of the responsibility. Epic knew this would happen bit did not bother warning users and since it has been known have done nothing to help get their users a solution. Can you not see the difference between pointing out alternate takes on a situation and blind loyalty. I could care less for Sony or any other publishers or developer but at the same time I'm not afraid to go against the grain and point out faults or play devils advocate. Do you think that it is acceptable for Epic to make an agreement linking accounts to the PSN and not tell their users or offer a disclaimer of any kind? Why do they bear no responsibility here? If GameStop sold you a console that only played games bought in GS and Sony agreed would your issue be with GS, Sony or both?

Murseyless

This is a lie Darko, you simply do not know this and your inner ideas regarding ToS between Epic, Sony and the consumer appear so defensive of Sony they appear almost delusional. I am very active across many Sony boards and you are the only person singing off this hymnsheet and it's exasperating.

The truth is you know as much about the matter as everyone else and the general consensus is that if Sony were screwed by Epic we'd have seen leaks or an actual commentary by Sony to take the heat of them, but they haven't and the reason they haven't is because it mostly likely is a money related issue.

Nintendo, PC and Xbox are all enjoying crossplat play together, seemingly free of restrictions and Sony are not.

I doubt very much that Epic have anything to do with it. Need I remind you of the time when PS4 and Xbox players were playing together as a result of a mistake on Epics part? Mike Ybarra from xbox openly said he wanted Epic to leave it on, Sony meanwhile, remained quiet.

The "we have exclusives" title is wearing thin and fast, thebfuture is cross play gaming and Sony are failing.

At the very best case scenario if Epic is holding Sony back then it's up to Sony to overcome those issues and get the best for their customers because as it stands right now, it's absolutely abmissal service.

[Deleted User]

EoinHef wrote:

Na,your just schilling as usual,then act like its everyone elses fault.

This is why forum boards are dying, people can't express an opinion without some ass accusing them of being a shill. I've been just as critical of Sony as I have MS and Epic, though I guess not falling inline with the mass consensus means that I have some agenda. Can no one play devils advocate anymore, can no one ask why we don't hold all parties accountable any more or is it a case that if you are a multi billion dollar company that sign an anti consumer agreement then you can't be held responsible for screwing over your player base?

[Deleted User]

Lol

[Deleted User]

I'd bet money that there is something in the contract that Epic signed that will financially penalise them if content is moved. Nothing Sony does is about anything but the money and for Fortnite it's about keeping the player base paying on the PSN. Epic don't care where you buy your content as moat it goes to them but for Sony if Xbox or Switch start having deals on Fortnite content they they fear losing out. if I was MS I would offer huge discounts on Fortnite content at the minute as this is their time to strike. The sooner they have Sony on the Blackfoot the better, Sony haven't been great since the PS3 era and are coasting by on goodwill for simply not being as **** as MS.

Epic still need to offer something to resolve this, they need to work with Sony toward a resolution and be vocal about it ad their current stance of saying nothing but it ain't us is not cutting it. I bet if this was an issue with FIFA cross play across platforms but locked to Sony if you used that then we'd see a lot of anger directed at EA but when its Epic people are happy to give them a pass for some reason.

Revoker88

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Woe is you, someone calls you on your bs and its defensive time. You criticised a company for something they've not done, Jesus bit bad as Sony are let's at least see what happens. You've deliberately misinterpreted my posts to try and paint me as something I'm not to suit an agenda

Na,your just schilling as usual,then act like its everyone elses fault.

[Deleted User]

EoinHef wrote:

Re read our posts. First you call me a sad sack then question my literacy yet im the one throwing around insults.

Woe is you, someone calls you on your bs and its defensive time. You criticised a company for something they've not done, Jesus bit bad as Sony are let's at least see what happens. You've deliberately misinterpreted my posts to try and paint me as something I'm not to suit an agenda.

Murseyless wrote:

The facts are Sony has let us down big time with Fortnite. Xbox and Nintendo are lapping it up currently and your "insight" into the industry and ToS do not change those facts.

Non one said they hadn't, Sony royally messed this one up but Epic are just as much to blame. You cannot sign an anti consumer contract and then when it screws your player base up say not our problem. That is what so few people seem unwilling to grasp about this, Epic caused this and yes they had to to get the game onto the PS4 but if this was EA would in place of Epic would everyone be so willing to let them off the hook.

Murseyless

Darko, please, on behalf of the PS4 community. Stop, just stop.

It's embarrassing to read now.

The facts are Sony has let us down big time with Fortnite. Xbox and Nintendo are lapping it up currently and your "insight" into the industry and ToS do not change those facts.

You are not better informed than aa former employee high up the ranks of Sony and I'd wager his input on the matter (that it was money related) is far more informed than your vague assertions that Sony haven't done anything wrong.

We get it, you're on our side, so stop letting us down. The only way Sony will change is if we voice our concerns and call them out on their nonsense, not defend them blindly, which is exactly what you're doing.

Revoker88

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Not justifying it, merely pointing out facts and reasons why they may charge. But hey don't let facts get in the way of you taking something, misinterpreting it and attacking another user simply because they can see beyond a petty need to get a dig in

Maybe grow up and stop acting like a child who is unable to discuss something without resorting to insulting others just because they aren't attacking a company for something they've not done.

Now i know for sure,your delusional.

Re read our posts. First you call me a sad sack then question my literacy yet im the one throwing around insults.

Definitely get your head checked...

[Deleted User]

Not justifying it, merely pointing out facts and reasons why they may charge. But hey don't let facts get in the way of you taking something, misinterpreting it and attacking another user simply because they can see beyond a petty need to get a dig in

Maybe grow up and stop acting like a child who is unable to discuss something without resorting to insulting others just because they aren't attacking a company for something they've not done.

Revoker88

[Deleted User] wrote: »

MS charged me when I wanted to change my name a number of years back so it's not like Sony are the only ones. I think a one time name change and then pay to change it a second time but have a cap on total number of changes you can do.

The above is your first reply to me,if that quote is not using MS as justification for Sony potentially charging you from the off i dont know what is.

My reading is fine. Maybe get your head checked as constantly defending sony on the internet cannot be good for your blood pressure.

[Deleted User]

EoinHef wrote: »

Your argument boils down to "MS's did it before so nobody can criticise Sony if they do it"

Thats rubbish and a total strawman. Ill treat that argument as such and call it what it is.

Jesus Christ, read what I am saying. I am not saying that nobody can criticise Sony for doing it, merely pointing out that others have done it in the past so the most likely expectation is that we will pay for it. I am comparing like with like, both MS and Sony are shitty companies with anti-consumer policies.

Saying that another company is a money hungry machine is not shilling, it's pointing out a fact. And even then, until Sony actually announce that they are charging isn't it a little early to be criticising them for something they haven't even done.

Revoker88

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm not justifying, merely saying that based on what previous platform holders did charging for it is most likely what will happen though then again the way people are talking about MS it appears that years of awful anti consumer actions are being forgotten. Heaven forbid that someone would point out that Sony aren't the only shitty corporation out there, but hey I must be a shill because I'm not jumping on the bandwagon like sad sacks like yourself. Maybe I can try and get some likes by attacking anyone who doesn't agree with me as you do, after all pointing out ****ty business practices by other companies is a shill. Maybe crack a dictionary and look up the definition of the word, I couldn't care less if you buy Sony or MS or whatever, I just don't see the need to attack a company for something they haven't done.

Your argument boils down to "MS's did it before so nobody can criticise Sony if they do it"

Thats rubbish and a total strawman. Ill treat that argument as such and call it what it is.

jcd5971

Blizzard you get one free name change anything after that you have to pay.

I'd imagine that will be the model.

Also I don't know why everyone's attacking darko, he's right on this what there competitors have done will have a. Assive bearing on what Sony do.

If Microsoft charged before then you can be absolutely certain Sony won't be free.

TitianGerm

EoinHef wrote: »

So what?

I dont care what MS did,im only interested in what sony are going to do. Using MS's actions to justify Sony's actions is not an srguement at all. Your just doing your usual schilling for Sony.

Thsts something that you just cant seem to grasp.

Unless of course you think two wrongs make a right

Microsoft allow (or at least used to) your first GT change for free if you have picked one of their suggestions when setting up you account the first time around.

I think it's €10 for subsequent changes to stop people changing GTs after firing off a heap of abuse online, which makes sense.

[Deleted User]

Fred The Red wrote: »

Jesus Christ this thread aswell

Shocking that people are posting about PS4 stuff in a PS4 thread. Maybe contribute something yourself beyond one liners crying about what other users are discussing.

[Deleted User]

In actual news, the hype is real

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[Deleted User]

Jesus Christ this thread aswell

[Deleted User]

kunst nugget wrote: »

Jesus, Darko… do you ever take a break from defending Sony and being offended on their behalf?

Look at you, fishing for the likes. Go you, how dare someone not jump on the bandwagon like every other sad offended gamer out there.

Maybe read my posts rather than just try to get a couple of likes. I've never defended or been offended on Sony's behalf and think that they are a pretty shitty company with a number anti-consumer practices, same as I think that MS, Nintendo, Epic, Activation and every other corporation is out just to make as much money as possible and would screw over their user base in a heartbeat. There was a time when people on boards actually discussed things but now there is this sad pack mentality where it's the same usual posters fishing for likes for each other as rather then look at any alternate views they jump to conclusions.

kunst nugget

My name is Megastar78 which always looks slightly ironic when I repeatedly appear as the biggest loser at the bottom of the table in multiplayer games

kunst nugget

Jesus, Darko… do you ever take a break from defending Sony and being offended on their behalf?

[Deleted User]

EoinHef wrote:

I dont care what MS did,im only interested in what sony are going to do. Using MS's actions to justify Sony's actions is not an srguement at all. Your just doing your usual schilling for Sony.

I'm not justifying, merely saying that based on what previous platform holders did charging for it is most likely what will happen though then again the way people are talking about MS it appears that years of awful anti consumer actions are being forgotten. Heaven forbid that someone would point out that Sony aren't the only shitty corporation out there, but hey I must be a shill because I'm not jumping on the bandwagon like sad sacks like yourself. Maybe I can try and get some likes by attacking anyone who doesn't agree with me as you do, after all pointing out ****ty business practices by other companies is a shill. Maybe crack a dictionary and look up the definition of the word, I couldn't care less if you buy Sony or MS or whatever, I just don't see the need to attack a company for something they haven't done.

Revoker88

gimli2112 wrote: »

I'll change it to this but sell it to you for €100. :pac: I've never had a problem with my psn name. There was a guy called Green Cobra I was pretty envious of when I played COD but think I'd have an identity crisis if I changed it now.

But you could really do with some capitals to by the looks of it:D

Revoker88

[Deleted User] wrote: »

MS charged me when I wanted to change my name a number of years back so it's not like Sony are the only ones. I think a one time name change and then pay to change it a second time but have a cap on total number of changes you can do.

So what?

I dont care what MS did,im only interested in what sony are going to do. Using MS's actions to justify Sony's actions is not an srguement at all. Your just doing your usual schilling for Sony.

Thsts something that you just cant seem to grasp.

Unless of course you think two wrongs make a right

gimli2112

EoinHef wrote: »

Waiting for a name change facility for years,instead of EoinHef my tag is eoinhef,i just want to make two letters capital letters and ill be happy.

I would have a problem if they charged you the first time. But it is $ony so id imagine thats exactly what will happen. All they would have to do is make it one name change every 6 months to stop abuse.

I'll change it to this but sell it to you for €100. :pac: I've never had a problem with my psn name. There was a guy called Green Cobra I was pretty envious of when I played COD but think I'd have an identity crisis if I changed it now.

[Deleted User]

EoinHef wrote: »

Waiting for a name change facility for years,instead of EoinHef my tag is eoinhef,i just want to make two letters capital letters and ill be happy.

I would have a problem if they charged you the first time. But it is $ony so id imagine thats exactly what will happen. All they would have to do is make it one name change every 6 months to stop abuse.

MS charged me when I wanted to change my name a number of years back so it's not like Sony are the only ones. I think a one time name change and then pay to change it a second time but have a cap on total number of changes you can do.

Revoker88

Waiting for a name change facility for years,instead of EoinHef my tag is eoinhef,i just want to make two letters capital letters and ill be happy.

I would have a problem if they charged you the first time. But it is $ony so id imagine thats exactly what will happen. All they would have to do is make it one name change every 6 months to stop abuse.

tgdaly

Quick question on remote play, I'm sure this has been asked already but can't seem to find a solution.

Can't seem to get it to work and I'm following instructions exactly. I connect my controller to my phone, which works no problem. Then I open the remote play app and the PS4 screen comes up but then when I try to use the controller it won't work, even though the light is still on and it's still connected to my phone as it works when I back out of remote play. It only let's me use it using phone screen as controller

[Deleted User]

Penn wrote: »

Can't see that happening. Ultimately it's your PSN name, and your PSN account is carried through all PS systems. If they allow you to change your username on one, it'd have to carry through to all PS consoles.

I'd also have no issue with them charging to change the name. I know when I did change my XBL gamertag yonks ago I think it cost 800 MS points (whatever that is in real money). Don't know if MS still charge for it but I think you'd need to to stop people abusing the system, even if it's a relatively small fee, or time restriction (eg. only allowed one change every 3 months).

I would assume they may offer the first name change free and then charge for others so as to ensure that it doesn't become an issue with people being dicks to each other. I think that before they started limiting name changes on FIFA there was a huge issue with people getting banned for offensive club names because friends thought it was hilarious to change a friends name to gasdajews and so on. I know that a friend of mine nearly lost his account because his cousin thought "killdanigg3rs" was hilarious.