AMKC wrote: » I think it's a brave move from Red Bull if it is true but also that it had to be done and was there only real option as the relationship with Renault had gone sour because of the way Red Bull treated Renault. I think Renault will be very happy to not have to supply Red Bull anymore. As for who should drive. If Kimi did retire at the end of the year I think Daniel Ricciardo to Ferrari alongside Vettel would shake things up a bit at Ferrari but also make it more interesting for the fans and be better for the team as well. Pierre Gasly could then go to Red Bull has he would have experience driving a car with the Honda engine that would be very valuable to the team so they could get off to a good start. Not sure who would replace Pierre Gasly at Toro Rosso do. I do however also like the idea of Daniel Ricciardo at Renault. Think he could could bring a lot to that team including motivation to do even better and get to the front of the grid.
Mike Litoris wrote: » I'll be shocked if dan goes to Renault. He won't win races there.
Spudman_20000 wrote: » Doubt Ricciardo will hang around for Honda engines next year.
flazio wrote: » But, are we really thinking that Honda can keep Red Bull in the top tier? Can either Dan or Max win a race, even somewhere like Monaco or Hungary with a Honda power pack?
Joeface wrote: » Possible yes , Given the same engine as renault in the Redbull car look at the difference . Honda were poor and at fault with Mclaren but given the demands of constant improvement over actual development from Mclaren and the constant public blaming game it was never going to work. Proof of that is look at Mclaren at the moment. Actually thought FP1 in canada they were going to be competitive but they were really far off the mark and spent a few races doing team mate tow to get into other rounds of qualifing ...that was the most embarrising thing when they were using honda and now they are doing with Renault . Honda have come on a leap and more should follow , Gasly said after Canada , he over took a Haas and a Force India on a straight and was not stuck for power. His race report said his tires were gone by the time he got behind the Sauber of CL . Is it a front runner yet ? Nope way off but it can be there for the start of next season. And Redbull been a Honda "works" team that does help them.
Gintonious wrote: » Honda have the handy position though of being so far behind that improvements should be thick and fast at this stage.
Schorpio wrote: » Had to double check the year - for a minute I though this post might have been from 2015....
Jordan 199 wrote: » I think he will end up at Ferrari.
elperello wrote: » After all he is Italian. Too much to resist, an Italian in a Ferrari with a chance to win the Championship.
Infoanon wrote: » elperello wrote: » After all he is Italian. Too much to resist, an Italian in a Ferrari with a chance to win the Championship. CapellI and Fisichella might disagree - the pressure from the Italian media is extreme
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Remember Luca Badoer? He was test driver for tears and years. Couldn't get the car around the track without incident when the pressure was on.
Shane_ef wrote: » This was posted on Reddit earlier, figured some (non-reddit) folk here who have never seen it would appreciate it
mrsoundie wrote: » Can you post a link to the original?
skipper_G wrote: » Try this https://i.redd.it/rz93j6ntm3511.png
donspeekinglesh wrote: » I didn't realise AVUS was so long. Trying to figure out where the start finish line is on the Mountain Course.
mickdw wrote: » RedBull Honda moving towards a honda buyout is interesting. Unfortunately Honda have a habit of pulling the plug when their investment is just about to pay off.
Harika wrote: » Honda was heavily burned with their own team recently, so I cannot see them looking again for an individual team, while the memory is fresh. Their best results in recent history they achieved as engine supplier only.
mickdw wrote: » yes. I was just making the point that after much expense, they pulled out prior to 09 season when they had the winning of the championship and previous to that they had the failed bit to enter in 99 or so where they knew they had a respectable engine already competing and they built and tested a chassis which was said to be competitive in testing. Harvey Postlethwaite who was running the show died and they then shelved the whole thing again no doubt at great expense and utterly wasted.
Gintonious wrote: Overall though, Ricciardo hasn't got much in the way of choices. Merc are happy with Bottas, Ferrari have a solid hierarchy now with clear No.1 and No.2 drivers, after RB its Renault, McLaren and FI. If Alonso heads off he might land in that seat.
flazio wrote: It'll be an interesting test of Vettels power at Ferrari because I'm sure he'd be keen to block the teammate who beat him in his last year at Red Bull becoming his teammate again. Might even be the end of Vettel at Ferrari if the deal goes through.
