Leroy42 wrote: » The notion that religion, and at the heart of it morals and a christian belief system, is in any way a driver of how these people act or want those representing them to act is complete nonsense.
Wanderer78 wrote: » 'free', it kinna has a very different meaning in reality!
listermint wrote: » Granted, but didnt want to bog down in specifics. Its not $50,000 per year tbf. But i count myself and as do my friends count themselves as extremely privileged to grow up on this island. lottery of life and all that. So i always reflect on that when i dish out my musings on people less fortunate than me.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Could you explain what you mean by "Bearded leftism"? Could you identify any examples who fall under your definition?
listermint wrote: » Bearded... Leftism, Is that a pocket response you learned from the Journal ? 1st. You are entirely Privileged, you were born into a country that offers up some of the best starts in life on earth. You benefited from Free Education right up to 3rd level, you benefit from our Social services (despite im sure you believing that you dont actually take any of them you do) everyone does. You benefited from an economical , social and meteorological climate that is stable and does not suffer from extremes. To claim that you are not privileged is beyond laughable. And ive no doubt you worked hard to do or be whatever you are today, but dont dare believe that the structures in place to make sure you got there and bascially helped you along the way were not out of those that went before us all. It seems some peoples bubbles stop at their front gate and this nonsense is becoming more prolific in the Social Media style me feiner last decade.
ELM327 wrote: » $50k No standard second level institute in Ireland or any western nation charges that for second level education.
LuckyLloyd wrote: » Our Direct Provision system could be amended and improved, there's no doubt about that. But we're not impinging upon basic human rights like the US are here.
ELM327 wrote: » I did not benefit from free education. Primary schools have "voluntary" contributions of a few hundred per year. I attended a private secondary school having earned a 100% bursary for academic prowess. So no cost to the state there at all. 3rd level is not free, you pay between 80-100% of most normal courses through the "registration fees" that regularly top 3-4k.
VinLieger wrote: » Non EU citizens are charged anywhere from 18k - 25k for UCD, that is the actual cost of a course removing all EU and Irish government subsidies that you don't pay. Thinking the 3-4k registration fee you paid is anywhere close to being 100% of the actual cost of a course is delusional.
VinLieger wrote: » Also attending private secondary education regardless of how it was paid for does indeed make you very damned privileged.
ELM327 wrote: » I think your feigned ignorance speaks volumes. I did not benefit from free education. Primary schools have "voluntary" contributions of a few hundred per year. I attended a private secondary school having earned a 100% bursary for academic prowess. So no cost to the state there at all. 3rd level is not free, you pay between 80-100% of most normal courses through the "registration fees" that regularly top 3-4k. The rest of your post is a dangerous equilibrium comprised of bunkum, socialism, and SJW. To which any response that I should proffer would likely be cannibalised with risible tripe along the lines of "WHITE PRIVILEGE" "THINK OF DE BABBIES" etc. So I shall save us both the bother. I can but be thankful that our little land of milk and honey has not been defiled like central and southern Europe has. Although the Nordics (particularly Sweden) are now also showing the issues associated with free and simple immigration. We should be aligning with past generations and, to borrow a leaf from a well known leader's book of quotable notables, "We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender." Instead we open our doors, and share our meagre wealth with those who plot to kill us, wreck our societal model, rape our women, brainwash our children, etc.
Captain Obvious wrote: » Our direct provision system would be fine if people were not stuck in it for so long.
Captain Obvious wrote: » Ignorance is the word alright. Seems you don't know how much of your education was provided by the taxpayer.
ELM327 wrote: » I didn't know UCD offered second level education? Privileged to be academically gifted. Nothing to do with location or any other privilege you care to throw at it.
listermint wrote: » I have with no doubt that you would not have the standard of living you enjoy today perhaps not even the internet should you have lotteried your life into a family in Guam , Peru, Syria. But you will never admit how privileged you are, such is the nature of those that cant see what is right in front of them. Anyway ive enough of pointing out the obvious to those that choose not to see. Way off topic here, Trump is still an idiot nearly 2 years later and his policies reflect everything that is dirty about Modern Society. They encompass it and they give license to those people to come out from rocks that agree with them. Hopefully we learn as a species someday, I'll be long gone by then.
ELM327 wrote: » Trump is the most powerful man on the planet. No one "lucks in" to getting into the position of ruler of the free world. Whatever you may dislike about the man, you cannot doubt his intelligence.
Water John wrote: » ELM, your'e sort of losing, the run of yourself , there. For example, the fee for third level, isn't remotely near, its cost. The paradox is, if DT was totally successful in closing the border and expelling all undocumented the American economy would be quite negatively affected.
listermint wrote: » Its quite clear to be now that you were a member of the UCD comedic society. As no one that academically gifted or graduated from UCD would believe such a claim. Top drawer though, you nearly had me.
Water John wrote: » Don't doubt his intelligence, at all. Know well, the level it's at, esp his, emotional intelligence.
ELM327 wrote: » Im', not losing, the' run of, myself, anywhere Trump is a smart politician. He's playing to his audience and couldn't give a crap about the rest. I am optimistic that should he choose to run in 2020 that he will be re-elected. And that is his aim.
pixelburp wrote: » When your opponent basically gives you an open goal by calling your voting base "a basket of deplorables" - a base that you yourself had already stoked into an anti-Establishment frenzy - then yes, luck had a big part in Trumps campaign. A campaign that never bothered writing a Transition plan either, and necessitated that farcical horse-trading in Trump Tower around Christmas '17. Since then he has shown no attempt to reach across to the rest of America that doesn't constitute his base. Trump inherited a great deal of his wealth, and many business ideas by him have fallen flat on their face; be it Trump Steaks, Trump Airlines, Trump Multimedia, Trump Magazone, his attempt at starting a rival to the NFL, the list goes on. Honestly? No I question Trump's business acumen and had he not the solid, reliable Manhattan real-estate as backup, it's entirely debatable whether he'd still be in a position of wealth today. He's the quintessential relic of old-world business. On a side note: by your logic, would you consider George W. Bush an intelligent man? By your thinking US Presidents are intelligent by dint of their success.
Billy Mays wrote: » Spot on Except as president he's actually expected to give a crap about the rest and not just the people like you who support him
ELM327 wrote: » If Mr Hussein Obama was in the running for one, DT must be a dead cert for sure.
20Cent wrote: » Was wondering why people were making a big deal about his seperate but equal comment looked it up. Separate but equal was a legal doctrine in United States constitutional law according to which racial segregation did not violate the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, adopted Ffs.
