Wanderer2010 wrote: » Well Done OP you are much better off out of there. I have a feeling though that the "shouting" you heard was just for show to make it look as if they were going to go against a manager. Either way you did the right thing by leaving.
Steven Seagal wrote: » Hey folks sorry for the delay, it’s been a hectic week finishing up. I left today at 5 after a very bitter week. My meeting on Monday was quite long but the eu director, hr manager and my immediate boss (the one that verbally approved my pto) sat in. Hr read off a generic list of questions that she obviously asked every employee then at the end asked ‘if you have any negative experiences with this conpany, please let is know’. I basically read off a timeline of the whole issue I had printed to her and the eu manager said he was appalled. He cut the exit interview off, asked me to leave for a few mins so I sat outside and heard a lot of shouting. He then came out and asked to cone back at 4pm for a meeting with just him and the US boss that denied my PTO. The 4 oclock meeting was extremely awkward but the US manager started to play dumb saying she wasnt aware of all the details of this. I gave the eu manager my full timeline of events that I had printed and again he asked me to leave. Cue a lot more shouting. The next morning I had an email from the US manager saying she was extremely disappointed with my comments about her and would reflect badly on me when attempting to land a new role. I didnt reply and forwarded it on to the EU director. On Wednesday, he called me in and apologised how it had been handled and offered to remedy it by allowing my PTO request and well as changing the internal policy for applying for time off. I told him I had another job lined up already (not true) and the email I got from the US the day before had left no doubt in my mind it would be a toxic work environment if I was to stay. He then offered me a small payrise (single digit percentage) Again I refused and shook his hand and left. I worked my last 2 days with my immediate team who were all very supportive and left at 5 today. As I was leaving my badge in to HR on the way out, I was given an envelope with a nice chunk of cash and letter from the EU manger saying he was understanding of me leaving and wished me all the best. I have 2 interviews next week so feel like I made the right decision.
Steven Seagal wrote: » Thanks for all the feedback, I was asked to attend a meeting at 3 today with both managers and explained my reasoning. I mentioned that I had communicated to my initial manager verbally when I was planning to take off and that I would put it in writing once we hit the summer perod for PTO requests. I also reiterated that another employee had taken a longer period off before Christmas, the US manager said that was a management mistake approving it and wouldnt happen again, so I told them I would have no option but to leave as I wasn’t not going to take the holiday. The US mananger immediately ended the meeting and scheduled another meeting next week with HR. My immediate manager was confused and told me to rethink leaving.
Banterbus28 wrote: » It's backed by capital of some description it's not just magically created. Too much zeitgeist for you.
Wanderer78 wrote: » Banterbus28 wrote: » You can't just create money. Have you heard of the hyperinflation crisis of Weimar Germany? oh yes you can, its has been done forever, its how our modern monetary system works
Banterbus28 wrote: » You can't just create money. Have you heard of the hyperinflation crisis of Weimar Germany?
Steven Seagal wrote: » Got rejected fully a half an hour ago and the Sept schedule was sent out with me on it for the days I was hoping to be off. I’ll try and schedule a meeting with my immediate manager and HR but sadly our only HR representative for the irish office is very difficult to deal with.
Wanderer78 wrote: » Banterbus28 wrote: » Money doesn't grow on trees oh id argue, it kinna does, our modern monetary systems are rather magical as they are, as explained very well by the bank of england and the Bundesbank
Banterbus28 wrote: » Money doesn't grow on trees
Wanderer78 wrote: » Banterbus28 wrote: » If you tax the rich they will just go elsewhere because yanno they're rich. Corporations shouldn't be punished for stimulating economic growth are you mad? why punish them? they indeed do create a large proportion of our employment needs, but shouldnt the spoils of the wealth created from these processes be more evenly distributed? maybe we should consider ideas such as the use of 'sovereign wealth funds' to do this?
Banterbus28 wrote: » If you tax the rich they will just go elsewhere because yanno they're rich. Corporations shouldn't be punished for stimulating economic growth are you mad?
Wanderer78 wrote: interesting point, the water protests where more so to do with society actually saying, enough was enough with austerity measures.
Wanderer78 wrote: » Augeo wrote: » Corporation tax, CGT etc all agree with you. Did you see the water charge protests? If more of the protesters agreed with you we'd be btter off too. interesting point, the water protests where more so to do with society actually saying, enough was enough with austerity measures.
Augeo wrote: » Corporation tax, CGT etc all agree with you. Did you see the water charge protests? If more of the protesters agreed with you we'd be btter off too.
Tell me how wrote: » Banterbus28 wrote: I'm happy to be taxed a bit more to get the services I am entitled to, but then i'm up north an Medical is free. For now.
Banterbus28 wrote: I'm happy to be taxed a bit more to get the services I am entitled to, but then i'm up north an Medical is free.
Augeo wrote: » Once we don't have an increasing number of spongers and non contributors as opposed to genuinely can't contributors there won't be a problem. Differentiating between the two can be cloudy of course.
Wanderer78 wrote: » i am in fact concerned for all humans and our planet, equally, labour cannot keep footing the bill for all our social needs
Wanderer78 wrote: » we simply cannot keep taxing labour to provide us with all our social needs, its an unsustainable model
Augeo wrote: » I feel wanderer is mindful that those who can't / don't work should benefit more from the fruits of others labour
Wanderer78 wrote: » Banterbus28 wrote: » I'm sorry but what is the issue with with higher taxation of labour? Is it not the worker that benefits from the fruits of this taxation? I'm happy to be taxed a bit more to get the services I am entitled to, but then i'm up north an Medical is free. we simply cannot keep taxing labour to provide us with all our social needs, its an unsustainable model
Banterbus28 wrote: » I'm sorry but what is the issue with with higher taxation of labour? Is it not the worker that benefits from the fruits of this taxation? I'm happy to be taxed a bit more to get the services I am entitled to, but then i'm up north an Medical is free.
Augeo wrote: » "theres plenty of well respected political and economic commentators writing about this now" That's opinion, not evidence.
Augeo wrote: » Mounting evidence? Where is it? Please do provide a link to the evidence. We are talking about Ireland btw.
Wanderer78 wrote: » again, theres mounting evidence to show, that the move of taxing capital less and taxing labour more is in fact not working for the majority.............
Augeo wrote: » I'm a firm believer that there is no need for this, as I said.... "Income tax and corporation tax are the current stabs at further distributing the wealth created and that's proving to be largely successful currently"
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