flatty wrote: » The EU will stand foursquare behind Ireland. I have absolutely no doubt about this. None.
An Claidheamh wrote: » "Irish sources say they have been informed via European capitals that British officials have been briefing against Ireland, hoping to diminish support for Ireland’s case." Can we stop pretending they're our friends now? In any other country, this would be headline news.
LeinsterDub wrote: » https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/0615/970823-tony-connelly-brexit/ Good summary as always from Tony. There is a lot of talk of an extension recently. Surely this isn't helpful an extension just leads to the clueless being clueless for longer.
One senior official in Brussels privately wonders if, as we hurtle towards an October crisis, might Theresa May seek a last-minute extension of Article 50?
An Claidheamh wrote: » https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-44500778/sinn-fein-leader-brexit-is-a-tory-conceived-vanity
Strazdas wrote: » This was scheduled for some time, a few weeks anyway, but it still may have been deliberately timed to happen just before the summit.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » Apparently Barnier and Juncker are in Dublin next Thursday and Friday with press conferences arranged. Pressure on Britain ahead of the summit?
Capt'n Midnight wrote: » Hitachi seeks Japanese partners in building $27bn UK nuclear plant Compare one power plant to the nett UK contribution to EU of £8Bn a year. I'm sure there's other stuff that Brexit is distracting from. But this is one of the three new nuclear projects the UK will be depending on to keep the lights on in the future. If there's a no deal Brexit and things go pear shaped the UK won't have the magic money tree to support such white elephants IMHO. And of course Labour aren't fans of subsidising big foreign companies so none of these projects are politically stable. Pretty much like Brexit really. Is the gubermint on auto pilot for big projects ? How is HS2 getting on ? Are there any real infrastruture projects outside of the south east ? Or is it all whishful thinking ? What's in it for the regions.
Havockk wrote: » Those who engineered this? Well they are going to have a huge problem after this... who to blame?
Capt'n Midnight wrote: » I sorta feel sorry for the leave voters, they've been let down by just about everyone except the EU. Politicans and media haven't helped them as much EU directives on working time and on health and safety and food quality and jobs because of being able to work within the EU supply chain.
Sand wrote: » I think the clear issue on the British side is that Brexit was fuelled by English nationalism. Whereas the Tory's are infused with British nationalism: Global Britain, Empire 2.0 and so on. The two identities are opposed: British is an imperial, multi national identity designed to unify the ruling caste of a global empire. English is...well, English. English nationalism won Brexit, but the UK government implementing Brexit remains in control of the British nationalists. Disharmony is inherent. The real struggle in the UK is between those two identities with their opposed interests. Brexit is just another battlefield.
parts of England have become ‘left behind’. Where there was once industry and proper employment, this has now gone; the mistake was not to recognise this, and not to even attempt to replace them. The ‘left behind’ parts have suffered disproportionally from ‘austerity’, the shrinking of the state supposedly in the name of ‘reducing Labour’s deficit’, but in reality a political move to further enrich the wealthy and impoverish the poor; it increases inequality. Inequality is very bad for your health. A particularly clever part of the marketing of Brexit was to show the left behinders that their problems were caused by the EU rather than being the UK’s own failures. ... It was the left behind areas of England that determined Leave in the referendum.
An Claidheamh wrote: » I know we're repeating ourselves on here but here is an example of the class of individual that spreads propaganda in Britain to the great British unwashed and believes they can still have an empire.https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/974938/Brexit-news-UK-EU-Christopher-Chope-European-Union-Theresa-May-negotiations-latesthttps://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/15/tory-mp-christopher-chope-blocks-progress-of-upskirting-bill
Deleted User wrote: » On a similar note the last couple of years have shown that in a slightly different way. No-one expected the vote to go the way it did but straight away the Europeans got ready for negotiations, made plans, offers and everything else. Meanwhile David Cameron stepped down allowing a weak leader and remainer to take his place. She's made a mess of just about everything since. She's called an election which weakened her hand when she expected to strengthen it. Her brain trust includes David "They read everything" Davis and Boris Johnson. She triggered Article 50 with no plan. She's thrown down some "Red Lines" beyond what many hard-Brexiters suggested before the vote and all the while the Europeans have acted like adults. The difference is astounding and continues to grow all the time.
Capt'n Midnight wrote: » Apologies. I had thought they'd actually progressed further.
Nody wrote: » Are you sure? All I can find is the replacement bill which is not with Euratom and a deal with US which is not signed yet. Yes it has clauses how they wish to remain a member etc. if all else fail but that does not mean they will have it.
The UK last week completed two more milestones in its preparations to leave the European Atomic Energy Community (Euratom). On 7 June, Parliament passed the Nuclear Safeguards Bill and government officials signed new international safeguards agreements with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
Deleted User wrote: » On a similar note the last couple of years have shown that in a slightly different way. No-one expected the vote to go the way it did but straight away the Europeans got ready for negotiations, made plans, offers and everything else.
