TFBubendorfer wrote: » What is more important to you, the Dublin City Tri in September or the half marathon in Galway in October? You can't be in your best shape for both, so pick the one that means more to you and train for that, and do the other one off that training, accepting that it will be a sub-optimal race. If you want to concentrate on the triathlon, training for a tri is reasonably good training for a run - not optimal but still good. There is the run training, obviously, but there is also some amount of carry over from the bike training that will help with running. Doing a triathlon on run training is a bit less obvious but I've done exactly that a few years ago, with some (limited) swim sessions and using my bike commute to get me used to cycling.
Rururun wrote: » Nice to know it can be done tho - out of curiosity do u train for both events now or do u stick to one?
joey100 wrote: » Sub 30 min run well achievable off a 26.30 5km time, once you keep up the training on the run and the bike. In my experience people tend to underestimate the bike and then expect to be able to run well off it. Your giving yourself an extra 3.5 mins over your PB, so around 210 seconds, around 40 seconds extra a km, a well paced 5km in a tri and you should be able to go under that 30 min barrier.
WicklowTiger wrote: » I personally wouldn't get too hung up on times for the triathlon. Unlike road running, it's very difficult to compare one with another, distances can and do differ between events and even comparing the same event year on year for example is impossible. You might get a current in the swim that makes everyone's times faster/slower. A windy bike could aid/hamper - these effects are much more pronounced in triathlon than in running, but bear in mind it is the same for everyone in the race. I've had a difference of over half an hour between 2 sprints! Maybe a better focus would be to try and improve finishing position over time. Training for triathlon over the past couple of years (admittedly longer distances than you're at) has seen me cut 3 minutes, then 2, then another 1:30 off my half marathon PB - that's with max. one long and one short run weekly, and a long cycle most weeks.
RIGOLO wrote: » I think you can adapt your training where both events will complement each other. Your looking at a 2hr HM, but also Id estimate your close to a 2 hour Tri (if you doing the sprint) , so in effect both are 2 hour endurance events. Keep up at least one long run a week , run at an easy pace, conversation pace. Maximise the bike training where you can, I go along with the old adage, cycling will help your running, more than running will help your cycling. All the tri trainign will help running, you just need to make sure you dont lose the mechanics of running. For the tri you should be practicing a BRIC session, incorporate a small run after a cycle, even if its just 2-3 k , its the mechanics of getting off the bike, putting on the runners and going for a jog. And also work on the diet, plenty of us (myself included) spend hours training and then ruin it with poor meal decisions (damn my wifes cooking). There are 4 weeks between the events, thats plenty time to recover and focus on the HM. But dont overdo it, Im assuming you have a decent level of fitness built up since you were off injured, DO NOT expect to PB in any of these, especially coming off a fairly recent injury. These are fun events you should enjoy. Your rediscovring a love for sport, so think long term into next year is when you will hve more events as long as you dont aggravate your injury. If you get around the TRI okay, you can feel confident you have the endurance for the HM, you can work some more on the running in the weeks prior to that.
Rururun wrote: So interesting about the time comparisons - I was hoping for a quicker tri but prob wouldn’t manage a half marathon in less than 1.55 at the mo so if it’s an equivalent comparison it’ll be so interesting!
demfad wrote: » Interesting thread. Cycling specifically helps uphill running (quad strenght) . And uphill running specifically helps flat running (all relevant muscles). Scheduling in a few hill reps during or even after the tri training might help convert the leg strenght for use in the HM. Perhaps after the tri: doing the early shorter reps/intervals uphill would achive this. The specific work around HM pace (=-5%) should be done on the flat.
Macy0161 wrote: » And don't forget a few brick sessions. The initial running off the bike can be a strange sensation.
panda100 wrote: » Just by way of comparison, my hm time is 1.55 and my sprint triathlon time is 1.20. The two are not comparable imo. The distance running will really stand to you on the run segment though. Definitely try and go out for at least one open water swim a week and one long bike ride. I usually do a long run and two short runs three times a week too. I commute to work by bike so that helps with cycle. Try and incorporate cycling or running into your every day routine as much as possible. I usually cycle to get to my open water swims.
Rururun wrote: Swim wise I’m only fitting in one a week - have only managed two open water so far - others in pool. Swim isn’t great for me I’m realizing - will be interesting to see my time in athlone - if it’s a complete disaster I’ll get one lesson to sort technique and then try get into the open water more before Dublin! But I really think I’ve more opportunity to make better times by improving bike and run - and transitions actually!
panda100 wrote: » So long as you can swim and can cover the distance comfortably than 1 swim session a week is absolutely enough.As long as you've done a couple of open water swimming sessions too you'll be fine. It can be a big transition for people to go from pool to open water and as well as that the group swim starts in the water can be overwhelming for people. When you start triathlon or join a club you will see people doing crazy amounts of training and convincing you that you need to be doing the same. If you incorporate cycling or running into your routine and swimming once a week, you'll be grand.
Rururun wrote: » The jelly legs are mad for the first few hundred meters and I on occasion have the odd cramp but now that seems to pass ok - think I’m getting used to it - does it ever feel normal??!
