C3PO wrote: » I'm surprised that the company let it get to this stage - they would appear to have lost a good employee and the OP has lost a job! Seems to show a complete lack of common sense!
Steven Seagal wrote: » Hey folks sorry for the delay, it’s been a hectic week finishing up. I left today at 5 after a very bitter week. My meeting on Monday was quite long but the eu director, hr manager and my immediate boss (the one that verbally approved my pto) sat in. Hr read off a generic list of questions that she obviously asked every employee then at the end asked ‘if you have any negative experiences with this conpany, please let is know’. I basically read off a timeline of the whole issue I had printed to her and the eu manager said he was appalled. He cut the exit interview off, asked me to leave for a few mins so I sat outside and heard a lot of shouting. He then came out and asked to cone back at 4pm for a meeting with just him and the US boss that denied my PTO. The 4 oclock meeting was extremely awkward but the US manager started to play dumb saying she wasnt aware of all the details of this. I gave the eu manager my full timeline of events that I had printed and again he asked me to leave. Cue a lot more shouting. The next morning I had an email from the US manager saying she was extremely disappointed with my comments about her and would reflect badly on me when attempting to land a new role. I didnt reply and forwarded it on to the EU director. On Wednesday, he called me in and apologised how it had been handled and offered to remedy it by allowing my PTO request and well as changing the internal policy for applying for time off. I told him I had another job lined up already (not true) and the email I got from the US the day before had left no doubt in my mind it would be a toxic work environment if I was to stay. He then offered me a small payrise (single digit percentage) Again I refused and shook his hand and left. I worked my last 2 days with my immediate team who were all very supportive and left at 5 today. As I was leaving my badge in to HR on the way out, I was given an envelope with a nice chunk of cash and letter from the EU manger saying he was understanding of me leaving and wished me all the best. I have 2 interviews next week so feel like I made the right decision.
Steven Seagal wrote: Hey folks sorry for the delay, it’s been a hectic week finishing up. I left today at 5 after a very bitter week. My meeting on Monday was quite long but the eu director, hr manager and my immediate boss (the one that verbally approved my pto) sat in. Hr read off a generic list of questions that she obviously asked every employee then at the end asked ‘if you have any negative experiences with this conpany, please let is know’. I basically read off a timeline of the whole issue I had printed to her and the eu manager said he was appalled. He cut the exit interview off, asked me to leave for a few mins so I sat outside and heard a lot of shouting. He then came out and asked to cone back at 4pm for a meeting with just him and the US boss that denied my PTO. The 4 oclock meeting was extremely awkward but the US manager started to play dumb saying she wasnt aware of all the details of this. I gave the eu manager my full timeline of events that I had printed and again he asked me to leave. Cue a lot more shouting. The next morning I had an email from the US manager saying she was extremely disappointed with my comments about her and would reflect badly on me when attempting to land a new role. I didnt reply and forwarded it on to the EU director. On Wednesday, he called me in and apologised how it had been handled and offered to remedy it by allowing my PTO request and well as changing the internal policy for applying for time off. I told him I had another job lined up already (not true) and the email I got from the US the day before had left no doubt in my mind it would be a toxic work environment if I was to stay. He then offered me a small payrise (single digit percentage) Again I refused and shook his hand and left. I worked my last 2 days with my immediate team who were all very supportive and left at 5 today. As I was leaving my badge in to HR on the way out, I was given an envelope with a nice chunk of cash and letter from the EU manger saying he was understanding of me leaving and wished me all the best. I have 2 interviews next week so feel like I made the right decision.
jimmycrackcorm wrote: » Well played OP. I hope others learn from this that leaving a job by your own choice isn't the worst thing in the world.
J Mysterio wrote: » How much did you get!?
Eire Go Brach wrote: » So what was the company? Amazon data centre by any chance?
Steven Seagal wrote: » In hindsight I think it was my holiday pay money, i’ll see when I get my last paycheck. No it was for a payments company.
TallGlass wrote: » Any legal recourse for her saying she will give you a bad reference. Could be discrimination here in Ireland, fúck her seriously. She needs to be put in her place.
Steven Seagal wrote: The next morning I had an email from the US manager saying she was extremely disappointed with my comments about her and would reflect badly on me when attempting to land a new role.
TallGlass wrote: Any legal recourse for her saying she will give you a bad reference. Could be discrimination here in Ireland, fúck her seriously. She needs to be put in her place.
Harika wrote: I was wondering what would happen here. As e. G. our company has a "no retailiation" policy and such a threat in an email would cause a massive stir at least.
Banterbus28 wrote: Never understood tge stupidity of management.
Wanderer78 wrote: » Banterbus28 wrote: Never understood tge stupidity of management. The management I've had to deal with were very intelligent, well informed and very successful in their own right, but if their objectives are continuously to 'maximise profits', this is exactly what they ll do, even if it means, treating employees like ****.
Banterbus28 wrote: » Then their not intelligent as it clearly costs more money to burn oit staff and then get new people in. Gwtting new people in isn't cost free...
Wanderer78 wrote: » Banterbus28 wrote: » Then their not intelligent as it clearly costs more money to burn oit staff and then get new people in. Gwtting new people in isn't cost free... yes, there is an element of unintelligence in this thinking, but that doesnt necessarily mean those that operate under these conditions are themselves unintelligent, my own experiences show me that this is the case, and i suspect im not alone, im sure even many boards members have been or are indeed in this exact situation themselves.
Banterbus28 wrote: » Many a study have shown that productivity is exponentially increased by supportive management systems I understand that sime industries the work them till their desd mentaloty works, primarily finance and trading.
Wanderer78 wrote: » Banterbus28 wrote: » Many a study have shown that productivity is exponentially increased by supportive management systems I understand that sime industries the work them till their desd mentaloty works, primarily finance and trading. and many a study has shown, that the wealth gained from this increase in productivity has not been evenly distributed, and that many workers across many sectors have not seen much of an increase in wealth from the increase in their productivity. i think we need a rethink about all this increase in productivity thing, and fast! i will agree though, since the dawn of the era of financialization, something is going very badly wrong with all this stuff, we need an overall rethink, and quickly.
Banterbus28 wrote: » Easiest solution is instead of cramming every thing into 9-5. Do all the front of house customer and client facing stuff Mon-Fri 9-5. And then have admin monkeys do nightshift to do all the administration ������
