Cupcake_Crisis wrote: » On one hand I think it’s good that this case is being spoken about as much as it is. On the other hand, I’m not sure it’s coming from the right place.
Cupcake_Crisis wrote: » It seems to be coming from (from what I’m reading) a ‘anything to get the immigrants out’ place, rather than a place of genuine concern for the safety of Irish women.
Captain Obvious wrote: » Yes I would suspect your imagination contains a lot of "facts" like that. How the hell can you deny it? I don't know of a single "gang rape case from Irish rapists in collusion with each other, however there are literally hundreds of Islamic and other rape culture incidents across Europe for years now. You'll deny it till it happens to one of your own, then you'll wake up ..a bit too late.
Captain Obvious wrote: » Anyway, why is this guys case from 8 years ago being brought up in this thread? It's nothing like the case reported in Clane.
Omackeral wrote: » Is it not? Sexual assault in Kildare where 3 males are involved and they're foreign nationals. No nothing alike. Another reason it's brought up is because he still plays football at the highest level in this country week in and week out and makes a living from it. Children attend the games. Then there's this. Not sure of the context but poor either way.
mynamejeff wrote: » how the f is this guy allowed to play for a professional club ? he should be removed regardless of the context or timing he is a convicted sex offender appears to think its funny , POS
Omackeral wrote: » Ban taxis.
backspin. wrote: » When you compare it to the whats-app messages from the rugby players and the outrage that ensued from that. This guy really is blessed not to be a white guy. Otherwise the online mobs and the media would be after him.
youtube! wrote: » Captain Obvious wrote: » Yes I would suspect your imagination contains a lot of "facts" like that. How the hell can you deny it? I don't know of a single "gang rape case from Irish rapists in collusion with each other, however there are literally hundreds of Islamic and other rape culture incidents across Europe for years now. You'll deny it till it happens to one of your own, then you'll wake up ..a bit too late. There was an extremely vicious gang rape in Clare some years ago. Rapists working together in a gang.
bubblypop wrote: » youtube! wrote: » There was an extremely vicious gang rape in Clare some years ago. Rapists working together in a gang. that was a once off incident of a group of scumbags targeting a couple because thy though mistakenly that the man was a garda may they all die roaring
youtube! wrote: » There was an extremely vicious gang rape in Clare some years ago. Rapists working together in a gang.
Ulysses Gaze wrote: » And Bohs, that great community oriented club, had this guy on their books up until 2017.... FFS
youtube! wrote: » How the hell can you deny it? I don't know of a single "gang rape case from Irish rapists in collusion with each other, however there are literally hundreds of Islamic and other rape culture incidents across Europe for years now. You'll deny it till it happens to one of your own, then you'll wake up ..a bit too late.
Omackeral wrote: » They did. And it caused a rift among plenty of fans.
neonsofa wrote: » I know of two (previous) fans who stopped supporting the club at the time and haven't gone back.
Cupcake_Crisis wrote: » On one hand I think it’s good that this case is being spoken about as much as it is. On the other hand, I’m not sure it’s coming from the right place. It seems to be coming from (from what I’m reading) a ‘anything to get the immigrants out’ place, rather than a place of genuine concern for the safety of Irish women. For example- this case has been fairly high profile, but the case below hasn’t received nearly as much publicity. One case involves foreign nationals, the other a limerick man, only one is really being spoke about.http://www.thejournal.ie/retrial-ordered-rape-case-4065246-Jun2018/
Hanley has previous convictions for violent crimes, including possession of a knife in 2000 and threats to kill in 2007 and 2008. He was convicted of intimidating a witness in his own 2008 case. During the sentencing hearing Hanley, who had dismissed his legal team after his conviction, repeatedly shouted at the judge that he was not a rapist and called the victim a liar.
_Dara_ wrote: » I’ve only experienced a sleazy taxi driver once. He was Irish.
Omackeral wrote: » Is it not? Sexual assault in Kildare where 3 males are involved and they're foreign nationals. No nothing alike.
Omackeral wrote: » Another reason it's brought up is because he still plays football at the highest level in this country week in and week out and makes a living from it. Children attend the games.
Omackeral wrote: » Then there's this. Not sure of the context but poor either way.
taylor3 wrote: » Just reading this thread. I wholeheartedly agree with the content of 'youtubes' post. I as a woman believe it's the idea that the attackers are acting as a group or gang that is truly scary. That would be a new thing. I remember growing up in the 80's and 90's and when news would break of a woman being attacked, mugged, raped etc; it was always a lone male, and yes he would be white Irish too, as we really didn't have many non national back then. So when I hear of 3 men attacking/raping a woman I'm sorry but I will always wonder who the perpetrators are and from what background.
FOUR teenagers who locked a man in the boot of a car and then took turns raping his girlfriend have received sentences ranging from four to 10 years at the Central Criminal Court.
Captain Obvious wrote: » iebamm2580 wrote: » Im not sure of the stats but when it comes to gang rapes i would imagine the proportion of foreign nationals committing this sort of crime compared to Irish is significantly higher. Yes I would suspect your imagination contains a lot of "facts" like that. Wheeliebin30 wrote: » https://theukdatabase.com/2014/11/01/3-kildare-residents-each-receive-suspended-sentences-for-sexual-abuse-of-schoolgirl/ Meet professional football Ismaheel Akinade of WATERFORD FC This is an exposure of a convicted offender who was involved/watched gang rape of a schoolgirl who not only walked free from court, but managed to silence five national newspapers with the help of high flying barristers. The Irish Independent, Irish Examiner, Breaking news Eire, Sunday World and Nationalist and Leinster times all had court injunctions taken out on them to hide his conviction. Ironically, the judge Justice Bernard Barton presided over all of the cases Akinade was due to be deported after his conviction, but was granted asylum by Justice Barton because he was a ‘hot prosepect for the future for Irish football’ That link is full of nonsense. He was 16 at the time of that incident and the girl was 14. That's why his information was not released, he was a minor. None of them were convicted of rape, it was defilement, commonly known as statutory rape. And since when does the judge in a criminal trial have the ability to grant a defendant asylum? What kind of manure reporting is that?
iebamm2580 wrote: » Im not sure of the stats but when it comes to gang rapes i would imagine the proportion of foreign nationals committing this sort of crime compared to Irish is significantly higher.
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » https://theukdatabase.com/2014/11/01/3-kildare-residents-each-receive-suspended-sentences-for-sexual-abuse-of-schoolgirl/ Meet professional football Ismaheel Akinade of WATERFORD FC This is an exposure of a convicted offender who was involved/watched gang rape of a schoolgirl who not only walked free from court, but managed to silence five national newspapers with the help of high flying barristers. The Irish Independent, Irish Examiner, Breaking news Eire, Sunday World and Nationalist and Leinster times all had court injunctions taken out on them to hide his conviction. Ironically, the judge Justice Bernard Barton presided over all of the cases Akinade was due to be deported after his conviction, but was granted asylum by Justice Barton because he was a ‘hot prosepect for the future for Irish football’
iebamm2580 wrote: » Would you say im totally wrong so that most gang rapes are by foreign nationals? Percentage proportion im talking about.
Captain Obvious wrote: » iebamm2580 wrote: » Would you say im totally wrong so that most gang rapes are by foreign nationals? Percentage proportion im talking about. In Ireland? Absolutely.
iebamm2580 wrote: » So your saying percentage populaion of ireland versus immigrants there has been more gang rapes by irish men than foreign nationals? Take the last twenty years as a fairer reflection as we have many more immigrants nowadays.
Captain Obvious wrote: » iebamm2580 wrote: » So your saying percentage populaion of ireland versus immigrants there has been more gang rapes by irish men than foreign nationals? Take the last twenty years as a fairer reflection as we have many more immigrants nowadays. Based on my experience in the criminal justice system over the past 12 years I would say yes.
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