TomOnBoard wrote: » A bad day for Trump, I'd say. First a lawsuit against his foundation, and then an IG report looks like it will not give him the evidence he was looking for to support his case that the entire top of FBI and DoJ are corrupt. However, IG report will support his decision to fire Comey. Comey seems to have phucked up with that July presser...
spacecoyote wrote: » More people coming after DT:https://www.ft.com/content/bb2d33cc-6fe0-11e8-852d-d8b934ff5ffa For those that can't access the link. The New York AG is suing the Trump Foundation & its directors for persistent illegal behaviour. He's already battling back over twitter in typical fashion:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1007278788009480192https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1007278825661784064
For Forks Sake wrote: » He can't pardon State charges, which has probably annoyed him somewhat.
pixelburp wrote: » Kneeling for the US anthem is sheer treachery in the eyes of conservatives,
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Pompey is insisting that complete denuclearisation must take place before sanctions are lifted which apparently is a complete surprise to NK. Never mind, The Donald will put the record straight given that he has one of the best memories ever.
pixelburp wrote: » Kneeling for the US anthem is sheer treachery in the eyes of conservatives, but saluting a North Korean general is ... what? More nothingburgers? I mean let's be fair: do other visiting dignitaries salute foreign troops; so would Michael D Higgins salute British soldiers when he visits the UK? C
ECO_Mental wrote: » Listen I think Trump is the biggest idiot ever but that saluting the General while he should know better and would have been briefed I can see how it happens. Years ago I was in Veitnam and went to see Ho Chi Minh's grave and preserved body. Anyway you queue up and you are told no smiling talking, dress appropriate etc etc serious stuff for these lads. As it happened myself and the misuses were first in the queue and were told to stand next to this army officer and wait to be escorted in. All grand and along comes his buddy to escort us in also and he stops in front of me and salutes his buddy who was standing next to me and what did I do, Salute him.......:P I though I was going to get arrested because I could stop laughing, you know those laughs like in Mass where you just cant stop:D Anyway my point is I can see how it could happen he saluted Trump first and its almost like a instinctive reaction, I was never in the army but it happens to me. Now hes supposed to be the POTUS and should know better but this clown has done A LOT worse
Blowfish wrote: » To add to his bad day, here he is saluting a North Korean general. Not that it was legitimate anyway, but his supporters can't exactly say anything about NFL players 'disrespecting the veterans' by kneeling if Trump is willing to disrespect them by saluting a general in an army they actually fought against.
Water John wrote: » It's a relatively minor matter in the scheme of things. He did it twice BTW. Wonder what he does when a US military person meets him and they salute?
LeinsterDub wrote: » https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKUL6qg5aQw Reports sanders is quiting along with her deputy. The staff turn over continues it would seem
Besides the courtesies required in their own armies toward their officers, enlisted EPW will salute all commissioned officers of the U.S. Armed Forces. Officer EPW will be required to salute only officers of a higher rank and the camp commander regardless of grade. (3) EPW may salute in the way prescribed by regulations in force in their own armies. (4) Other military courtesies will be rendered per AR 600-25 (Salutes, Honors, and Visits of Courtesy) and FM-22-5 (Drill and Ceremonies). d. U.S. military personnel will extend the following courtesies toward EPW: (1) U.S. military personnel will not be required to salute EPW or assume the position of attention when addressing them; however, U.S. officers will return the salutes of EPW.
If you are an enlisted prisoner of war, you must salute all enemy officers. If you are an officer prisoner of war, you salute only enemy officers of equal or higher rank. You render your own salute, not the salute as executed by the enemy. Where other matters of military courtesy and discipline are concerned, you have the same rights and duties as your opposite number in the enemy army.
Manic Moran wrote: » You know not of which you speak. Perhaps you should look up military protocol or ask a soldier. Officers of foreign militaries, even enemy in time of war, are entitled a salute be returned. For example, this modern manual.http://www.jag.navy.mil/distrib/instructions/OPNAV3461.6_Enemy_POW_Detainees.pdf Here's Norman Schwartzkopf saluting an Iraqi in 1991. Neither is it a new concept. For example, from this War Dept manual from 1944:http://www.schindler.org/psacot/captured.pdf Not just American, either. Here's the Royal Navy exchanging with a Japanese in WW2. So, can we put that to rest and pick on actual issues instead of making up more? It's not as if there aren't any already. Oh, I don't know if it got linked to before, here's the text of what he signed with Kim. Nothing particularly dramatic, other than that it exists in the first place.https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/12/politics/read-full-text-of-trump-kim-signed-statement/index.html
jooksavage wrote: » Agreeing with this - Trump has bigger questions to answer. Although, it's kind hilarious that to see someone who would presume to tell kneeling athletes what is and isnt patriotic hand the NK media this little snippet for them to loop ad infinitum. Also, if his predecessor had as much as blinked at NK general, we'd still be hearing about Traitor Obama.
robinph wrote: » But Trump isn't and never was in the military. The military might salute another head of state, but unless the head of state is themselves military then they wouldn't be saluting back.
aloyisious wrote: » How does a charity give out 400,000 more than it took in from donations? Was the difference from interest earned in funds it banked or a display of his excellent record of money management?
Manic Moran wrote: » So, can we put that to rest and pick on actual issues instead of making up more? It's not as if there aren't any already. Now, it may well be that the return was instinctive (It would be for me) instead of knowing the niceties of military etiquette, but either way, he got it right insofar as he has chosen to return salutes in general.
