Limerick_Lass wrote: » Lads this thread is so depressing to read .... is it just getting worse so?
realdanbreen wrote: » Seriously! Is there anything opening in Limerick apart from pound shops and cafes? Limerick, from that monstrosity of buildings out near the parkway to the boarded up shops in Rutland/Patrick street must be the most decrepit city in the country.
Mc Love wrote: » Go back to the Tipp forum :rolleyes:
davo2001 wrote: » To be far he's not wrong, I live in Limerick and love the place, but the city centre is a disaster.
Mc Love wrote: » Is it though? There is the Gardens International site that is nearing completion. Plans for the Opera Center and for another development across from it. Business has improved in the city since I've started working in it and thats over 2 years.
Mc Love wrote: » Is it though? There is the Gardens International site that is nearing completion. Plans for the Opera Center and for another development across from it.
realdanbreen wrote: » 'plans for the opera center' ? They've been talking about that for 10 years now. They have been on about the demolishing the derelict buildings near the parkway for another 10 years. Pretty much all of Rutland street is boarded up. Like I say apart from coffee shops and cheap nail bars there is zilch opening in Limerick.
davo2001 wrote: » All stuff that hasn't happened yet.
campo wrote: They have taken up two floors in the hanging gardens
geotrig wrote: » So ! what do you want to open , retail in general on high streets are still struggling everywhere if you ask me whats opening in other towns ~! id rather i few nice cafes than a few golf shops .
Glenomra wrote: » The fact that there is a market for the myriad of coffee shops, nail bars etc shows that there are plenty of customers in the city. Where realdanbreen is right is the urgent need to broaden the retail offering.
realdanbreen wrote: » The gardens International site is an office block on Henry street. You reckon that solves the problem of the boarded up buildings on Rutland street :rolleyes:
Cookiemunster wrote: » Plans have been published for the Opera Center. €170m has been borrowed to build the Opera Center. It' will be going to ABP for planning in the Autumn. Rutland St is boarded up because it's part of the Opera Center development. And who's had plans to demolish Parkway Valley for 10 years? It's privately owned and the owners want to build it out.
keane2097 wrote: » Types of business therealdanbreen has complained about in this thread in the last year: New office block Nail bars Uber Coffee shop Sweet shop Pop up bookshop Art & craft shop Supervalu (lol) Hooke & Ladder Barbers Hairdressers Fast food outlets Phone repair shops Financial services companies Little cafes Euro shops Gadget shops Bars E-cig shop Pastry shop Cheese shop Casino
zulutango wrote: » If you have a lot of traffic on a street, narrow footpaths and a generally unappealing environment, then the rents are more likely to be pushed down and this is great if you want a proliferation of e-cig and gadget shops. If the Council want streets to become more upmarket then they should close those streets to cars, and make them people-centric spaces. Some are easier to do than others, but there really isn't a need to spend €10 million and go through many years of consultation. Just block the traffic. There'd be a lot of loud resistance from people who want to park outside the door of every shop they go to though. I don't have much sympathy for them. I think more legitimate resistance would come from traders who want to come and go throughout the day or park outside their shops. A solution should be found for them but I don't think it's a reason not to do what is best for the city as a whole.
zulutango wrote: » Nobody is asking for complete pedestrianisation.
Cookiemunster wrote: » In the past you've called for the whole Georgian core to be pedestrianised. That's pretty much full pedestrianisation.
The Specialist wrote: » Yeah and probably a lot of resistance from normal motorists who just want to drive through the ****ing city without going miles around it. Pedestrianisation will NOT work in Limerick - there is absolutely nothing in the city centre worth blocking every road for. Fine idea if you want a walk through ghost town which has e-cig & coffee shops, for actual shopping it would just drive everybody else to one of the outer shopping centres. Which is probably the complete opposite of the intended goal of turning the city in to one giant footpath.
Vanquished wrote: » So you feel that the primary purpose of the city centre is to provide a route for traffic to drive through to get to somewhere else?! That's worked astonishingly well for the last few decades. The city centre is thriving as a result. Sure why would we want to change a thing?! Is it any wonder it's in the state that it is?!
The Specialist wrote: » The fact you infer that a main road through the city is to blame for the fact it's not thriving is laughable. Nothing to do with the over zealous traffic wardens? The over priced car parks? The obscene rents charged on units in the centre? No it couldn't be anything to do with those.
The Specialist wrote: » Limerick city needs a lot more fixed before they even think about pedestrianising it. I reiterate again - there is NOTHING in the city centre at present worth shutting road networks for increased pedestrian traffic. Nothing.
