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Tommy Robinson jailed

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Apparently according to Lauren Southern, Tommy has been sentenced to 13 months but there is a UK wide embargo on reporting.

Anyone else got any info?

Edit. Not too sure about the authenticity of the embargo. I'm assuming that it's for this https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html?amp

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thebull85

EarlSlick wrote: »

In the middle of the protest and sandwiched in between the Union Jack flags was an Israeli flag. Just goes to show the level of intelligence these morons have.

Whats your point?

FTA69

thebull85 wrote: »

Whats your point?

That people who are giving Nazi salutes are marching alongside supposed supporters of Israel is a massive contradiction and that it highlights the dopey nature of many of those attending.

In fairness, the ones in Belfast were Loyalist types who have always been prone to bigotry and stupidity anyway so probably not big news there.

thebull85

FTA69 wrote: »

That people who are giving Nazi salutes are marching alongside supposed supporters of Israel is a massive contradiction and that it highlights the dopey nature of many of those attending.

In fairness, the ones in Belfast were Loyalist types who have always been prone to bigotry and stupidity anyway so probably not big news there.

Im only looking at the Belfast protest now i wasnt aware it was taking place. Few tricolours in the mix there aswell.

Id imagine thats gonna piss a lot people off.

super_furry

thebull85 wrote: »

Im only looking at the Belfast protest now i wasnt aware it was taking place. Few tricolours in the mix there aswell.

Id imagine thats gonna piss a lot people off.

Fairly sure they're Ivory Coast flags. He has a big following in the Côte d'Ivoire does oul Tommy.

thebull85

super_furry wrote: »

Fairly sure they're Ivory Coast flags. He has a big following in the Côte d'Ivoire does oul Tommy.

You wish. Im actually quite shocked to see people flying the Irish flag and the union jack standing beside each other and not trying kill each other.

Tommy bringing people together

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Absolutely. I would consider myself right leaning but judging by what some consider left (or even centrist), it may seem I am far right.

This is bang on the money. It’s perfectly reasonable for people with a shoddy past or even a shady present to tell truths. You can understand, agree with or even sympathise with some of what Robinson says without absolutely subscribing to all of his ideologies. Those who are dead set against him either can’t or won’t accept that as a possibility. To them, you’re far-right, alt-right, a facist, a nazi or their favourite... a racist.

WinnyThePoo

Nope Omackeral. What you are doing there is saying ' To them, you're far right, alt-right, a facist, a nazi or their favourite ...a racist.

This is statement by you. Not anyone else in the thread. Unfortunately though considering the company Tommy has kept in the past and even now. He may not be a racist, but certainly the people he spends his time with are. The utter stupidity of himself ignoring a court order and getting jailed, is his and only his responsibility.

The outrage from his supporters is hilarious, I'm sure Tommy's delighted with support. unfortunately for the support, they wont be getting Tommy out.

FTA69

Omackeral wrote: »

This is bang on the money. It’s perfectly reasonable for people with a shoddy past or even a shady present to tell truths. You can understand, agree with or even sympathise with some of what Robinson says without absolutely subscribing to all of his ideologies. Those who are dead set against him either can’t or won’t accept that as a possibility. To them, you’re far-right, alt-right, a facist, a nazi or their favourite... a racist.

I actually don't give a toss about Robinson's criminal record for what it's worth. The fact he gets boozed up and fights people or uses a false passport etc doesn't bother me really. However, most of those adjectives that you used can be levelled at Robinson (maybe not Nazi) because he was a member and is a supporter of groups fitting that exact description.

His criticism of radical Islam and paedophiles is also self-serving, often inaccurate and he provides no alternative whatsoever bar stunts designed to boost his own profile.

[Deleted User]

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Nope Omackeral. What you are doing there is saying ' To them, you're far right, alt-right, a facist, a nazi or their favourite ...a racist.

This is statement by you. Not anyone else in the thread.

Never said it was. It's an opinion I've formed judging on a vast array of comments made here by numerous posters. I'm giving my own opinion, not speaking for everyone. I'm allowed to do that.

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

The outrage from his supporters is hilarious

Not saying you're inferring same here but folks agreeing with parts of what Robinson says or showing concern for some of the issues that he's trying to highlight doesn't automatically make them a supporter of his. That's another point I'd make.

[Deleted User]

FTA69 wrote: »

I actually don't give a toss about Robinson's criminal record for what it's worth. The fact he gets boozed up and fights people or uses a false passport etc doesn't bother me really. However, most of those adjectives that you used can be levelled at Robinson (maybe not Nazi) because he was a member and is a supporter of groups fitting that exact description.

At least you'll concede maybe not a Nazi.

FTA69

Omackeral wrote: »

At least you'll concede maybe not a Nazi.

Not a Nazi, but definitely a fascist and a supporter of racists.

Stephen15

Tommy must be freed now. He committed a crime that shouldn't be a crime. The reporting restrictions were put in place to suit The BBC and The Guardian so that people wouldn't seek alternative sources of media which tell the truth. The liberal media don't want people knowing the truth about Muslim Grooming Gangs or Islam in general. It suits the government that people like Tommy who expose the truth about Islam are locked up as otherwise people might go against their mass immigration agenda.

Stephen15

FTA69 wrote: »

Not a Nazi, but definitely a fascist and a supporter of racists.

Evidence please?

FTA69

Stephen15 wrote: »

Evidence please?

I provided links a number of posts back, and I’m sure it was you who asked for them too. Former member of the BNP, current supporter of Generation Identity.

Captain Obvious

Stephen15 wrote: »

Tommy must be freed now. He committed a crime that shouldn't be a crime. The reporting restrictions were put in place to suit The BBC and The Guardian so that people wouldn't seek alternative sources of media which tell the truth. The liberal media don't want people knowing the truth about Muslim Grooming Gangs or Islam in general. It suits the government that people like Tommy who expose the truth about Islam are locked up as otherwise people might go against their mass immigration agenda.

Which truthful alternative sources are you referring to?

ohnonotgmail

Stephen15 wrote: »

Tommy must be freed now. He committed a crime that shouldn't be a crime. The reporting restrictions were put in place to suit The BBC and The Guardian so that people wouldn't seek alternative sources of media which tell the truth. The liberal media don't want people knowing the truth about Muslim Grooming Gangs or Islam in general. It suits the government that people like Tommy who expose the truth about Islam are locked up as otherwise people might go against their mass immigration agenda.

you are spectacularly uninformed. Spectacularly.

ohnonotgmail

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Which truthful alternative sources are you referring to?

stormfront.org?

thebull85

FTA69 wrote: »

I provided links a number of posts back, and I’m sure it was you who asked for them too. Former member of the BNP, current supporter of Generation Identity.

He has said before he doesnt agree with everything GI say, he delivered Martin Selners speech at speakers corner because he supports freedom of speech. There was nothing hateful in that speech either.

Stephen15

FTA69 wrote: »

I provided links a number of posts back, and I’m sure it was you who asked for them too. Former member of the BNP, current supporter of Generation Identity.

Generation Identity aren't fascist and nor are the BNP. Like saying that a bunch of Chlesea supporters doing the nazi salute now makes Chelsea a Fascist club.

Stephen15

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Which truthful alternative sources are you referring to?

Breitbart, Infowars, The Alex Jones Channel and Rebel Media

ohnonotgmail

Stephen15 wrote: »

Breitbart, Infowars, The Alex Jones Channel and Rebel Media

Man that is funny.

Stephen15

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Man that is funny.

How?

[Deleted User]

Stephen15 wrote: »

Breitbart, Infowars, The Alex Jones Channel and Rebel Media

Ah come on. I'm a massive card carrying BNP and EDL member and Tommy supporter (not really, just think some of what he says holds merit :P) but listing those as credible sources is barmy.

Mutant z

The logic of the left you either stand with us or you're a far right neo nazi bigot like there's no other alternative its perfectly rational to have concerns about immigration without being a neo nazi in fact the majority aren't they are just sick of being ignored by the politicians who claim to represent them does anyone think they want whats best for this country because i sure as hell don't they are only in it for themselves to screw the rest of us over.

Stephen15

Omackeral wrote: »

Ah come on. I'm a massive card carrying BNP and EDL member and Tommy supporter (not really, just think some of what he says holds merit :P) but listing those as credible sources is barmy.

Look I don't agree with everthing they say but they say what the mainstream media is too afraid to say at times due to the PC brigade.

ohnonotgmail

Mutant z wrote: »

The logic of the left you either stand with us or you're a far right neo nazi bigot like there's no other alternative its perfectly rational to have concerns about immigration without being a neo nazi in fact the majority aren't they are just sick of being ignored by the politicians who claim to represent them does anyone think they want whats best for this country because i sure as hell don't they are only in it for themselves to screw the rest of us over.

It is perfectly rational. Nobody has suggested otherwise. But we are talking about tommy robinson and rational does not apply to him. He is a far right thug who has taken up this "cause" because it attracts publicity for him.

Stephen15

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It is perfectly rational. Nobody has suggested otherwise. But we are talking about tommy robinson and rational does not apply to him. He is a far right thug who has taken up this "cause" because it attracts publicity for him.

And you the man some time to change his ways? Which he is, but he's still a thug because he continues to criticize Islam.

Mutant z

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It is perfectly rational. Nobody has suggested otherwise. But we are talking about tommy robinson and rational does not apply to him. He is a far right thug who has taken up this "cause" because it attracts publicity for him.

What actual evidence have you got for that i see all this mud throwing coming his way without solid proof i mean he isnt keen on islam so what so most of us with our heads screwed on aren't if the police did their jobs in the first place you wouldn't need to worry about him. Someone had to stand up for what was happening no one else was willing to but Tommy Robinson maybe the establishment shouldn't be so ignorant to what is happening around them in future if it takes TR to achieve that then its a job well done as far as im concerned.

ohnonotgmail

Stephen15 wrote: »

And you the man some time to change his ways? Which he is, but he's still a thug because he continues to criticize Islam.

He continues to associate with fascists and thugs so perhaps he has not changed as much as you think he has.

ohnonotgmail

Mutant z wrote: »

What actual evidence have you got for that i see all this mud throwing coming his way without solid proof i mean he isnt keen on islam so what so most of us with our heads screwed on aren't if the police did their jobs in the first place you wouldn't need to worry about him. Someone had to stand up for what was happening no one else was willing to but Tommy Robinson maybe the establishment shouldn't be so ignorant to what is happening around them in future if it takes TR to achieve that then its a job well done as far as im concerned.

You think tommy is responsible for these people being taken to court?