martyboy48 wrote: » Currently carrying most of the weight in my belly. A right sized keg I'm lugging around
OOnegative wrote: » Currently 79kgs and hope to be below 75kgs come Köln.
Itziger wrote: » So you must be taller than me then, which wouldn't be that difficult tbh. I'm about 67/68 kgs although I've more or less stopped weighing myself.
OOnegative wrote: » 67kgs!!! Not a hope of me ever getting to that weight. Currently 79kgs and hope to be below 75kgs come Köln.
Itziger wrote: » You didn't look anywhere near 79k in those horrible sweaty pics. Is this weight-sand-bagging????
OOnegative wrote: » healy1835 wrote: » The plan was put together by a good mate and re-evaluated every 3/4 weeks or so. He's not a coach as such but he would have been an elite runner so I'd be well looked after Was probably in and about 67kgs in the two marathons give or take. That's about 6 kgs lighter than Berlin last September......I was probably about 76+kgs in Dublin 2016. 67kgs!!! Not a hope of me ever getting to that weight. Currently 79kgs and hope to be below 75kgs come Köln.
healy1835 wrote: » The plan was put together by a good mate and re-evaluated every 3/4 weeks or so. He's not a coach as such but he would have been an elite runner so I'd be well looked after Was probably in and about 67kgs in the two marathons give or take. That's about 6 kgs lighter than Berlin last September......I was probably about 76+kgs in Dublin 2016.
OOnegative wrote: » Did you follow a specific plan or was it made out to suit you? Can’t remember if I asked you that in your log. What weight were you?
shotgunmcos wrote: » Given your last marathon was a 2:59:xx It makes sense. All those quality session plus the LRs and the weekly volume in your log you put in each week. One thing that stands out to me is your short interval speed. 20x400 at 71-77 secs is some session! With that kind of speed and mental tenacity to see it through, the 10k and 5 mile look a little soft? Also probably an indicator that your recent sub3 is scratching the surface... Were the LRs all easy aerobic kms? If so, why no MP stuff? How is recovery generally after long and hard sessions? Which would break your body down first, more volume or more intensity?
Testosterscone wrote: » Here is a list of all the sub 3 (or target sub 3s) logs I can think ofKrusty Clown 2.30 PBDublinRunner 2.33 PBZico10 2.35 PBMine 2.43 PBRayCun 2.56 PBAuldManKing 2.58 PBDuanington 2.58 PB A few also from posters here popping up but should provide some ideas and reading material
Itziger wrote: » I'm thinking of having a go at Hansons just for a change, keep me fresh. What's the story with the Long Runs? I see there is some talk of doing a couple 'depleted' and some others at certain paces and/or fast finish. I'm a bit confused though...... If I take it on I'll be asking loads of questions as I don't have the book.
RayCun wrote: »
squinn2912 wrote: » Yea I get that - what you put in you get out and if that's BS well then… Can you link your own log? I took a quick trawl but didn't see it.
squinn2912 wrote: » Thank you. I took a look at a few of those on that link. Do they work better than posting up on this general thread?
squinn2912 wrote: » Nicely made out wee table that. How did your race go?
Testosterscone wrote: » squinn2912 wrote: » Thank you! No I don’t even know how to go about doing a log! https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1139 Start a thread, record your training. Can be a good way of holding yourself accountable as well as getting feedback specific to your training
squinn2912 wrote: » Thank you! No I don’t even know how to go about doing a log!
Duanington wrote: » squinn2912 wrote: » You, my friend, are a breath of fresh air! It was Derry but yea you're right. Lots of little things went against me and I couldn't afford any of them. I thought I was in better shape than I was too. I will work on the consistency but I need to think about my target. I don't want to 'just' go for a sub3 but I do need a contingency plan if something's not right like weather. My initial thinking is to plan, aim and train for a goal marathon pace that would make me happy. On race day then I think I'm better running the first half very conservatively and pushing myself from about 16 on. That's hard to do but it's better than blowing up and looking for pacers to blame. For the 'can control' things I'm disgusted with myself. For the 'can't' I feel a little hard done by but the only thing to do is put it right. Of course it was Derry ! My bad!!
squinn2912 wrote: » You, my friend, are a breath of fresh air! It was Derry but yea you're right. Lots of little things went against me and I couldn't afford any of them. I thought I was in better shape than I was too. I will work on the consistency but I need to think about my target. I don't want to 'just' go for a sub3 but I do need a contingency plan if something's not right like weather. My initial thinking is to plan, aim and train for a goal marathon pace that would make me happy. On race day then I think I'm better running the first half very conservatively and pushing myself from about 16 on. That's hard to do but it's better than blowing up and looking for pacers to blame. For the 'can control' things I'm disgusted with myself. For the 'can't' I feel a little hard done by but the only thing to do is put it right.
healy1835 wrote: » squinn2912 wrote: » Yea it's hard to argue with that. Being realistic and humble are always good qualities. Sometimes saying or typing that you'll smash this or that is part of the mental preparation - if you don't see it happening then how is it meant to? I hope I didn't make you wince too much. I don't really tend to think very deeply when posting about marathon preparation. It's usually just numbers and reactions to them. I suppose being down is much worse than any subsequent kick. I'm taking the positives out of this. I made it to the start and finish lines. I made mistakes but nothing glaring. I backed myself and came up a bit short, not an awful lot. I'm looking forward to getting at it again. The fact you're itching to go again is important. You know a couple of areas that you can work on straight away.....ever thought of putting a log up on these here parts? (Apologies if you have one already....)
squinn2912 wrote: » Yea it's hard to argue with that. Being realistic and humble are always good qualities. Sometimes saying or typing that you'll smash this or that is part of the mental preparation - if you don't see it happening then how is it meant to? I hope I didn't make you wince too much. I don't really tend to think very deeply when posting about marathon preparation. It's usually just numbers and reactions to them. I suppose being down is much worse than any subsequent kick. I'm taking the positives out of this. I made it to the start and finish lines. I made mistakes but nothing glaring. I backed myself and came up a bit short, not an awful lot. I'm looking forward to getting at it again.
