Samuel T. Cogley wrote: » While I realise people have a particular aversion to sexually based crimes, the one that really strikes me is the pitiful sentences handed out for death/serious injury by dangerous driving. Obviously you never know until you're (God Forbid) in the actual situation but I feel quite strongly that if someone I loved was killed or seriously injured by someone and handed a ridiculously short sentence I'd be waiting for them in the long grass. I suppose two wrongs don't make a right but I don't think I'd be able to help myself. Has this ever happened that we know of? Anyone else feel the same? Am I just as bas as the scumbags? Thoughts, comments etc.
biko wrote: » When push comes to shove most people wouldn't do ****.
Samuel T. Cogley wrote: While I realise people have a particular aversion to sexually based crimes, the one that really strikes me is the pitiful sentences handed out for death/serious injury by dangerous driving.
Wanderer78 wrote: » Does incarceration actually work?
catrionanic wrote: » In my job, I quite often I have to tell people they have to stop driving as they are unsafe to do so. Some people are understanding, but the majority, particularly elderly people, refuse to believe it. I know that a significant percentage of them leave my company with zero intention of stopping driving. There are also an awful lot of people driving without glasses when they are unsafe to do so. I don’t think there’s enough public awareness, or indignation/shaming, of this. Knowing that so many of these people are on the roads, with their, “it won’t happen to me, it’ll be grand”, “sure I only drive locally” logic, is terrifying!
Graces7 wrote: A life ban would..maybe.
Graces7 wrote: Not defending it but in deep rural areas a car is literally a lifeline especially for old folk and more needs to be put in to help them get out
Wanderer78 wrote: » Completely agree, it can be a case of, drive or die
weldoninhio wrote: How did old people survive 50 years ago?? Drive or die ffs.
Wanderer78 wrote: » The world is vastly different from 50 years ago, our society has changed greatly since. How does one buy critical things such as food, if living in a rural area, can elderly people simply walk to be in the company of others, are our public transport systems adequate enough to help do all this?
weldoninhio wrote: Again, how did they do it rurally 50 years ago? There are more shopping options now than ever in the history of the state. What public transport systems were there in rural locations 50 years ago? Could elderly people simply walk to be in the company of others 50 years ago? Whats happened over the past 50 years thats impacted on their walking ability??
Graces7 wrote: But many do not have that.
weldoninhio wrote: » Again, how did they do it rurally 50 years ago? There are more shopping options now than ever in the history of the state. What public transport systems were there in rural locations 50 years ago? Could elderly people simply walk to be in the company of others 50 years ago? Whats happened over the past 50 years thats impacted on their walking ability??
weldoninhio wrote: » I’ve done it before. Got assaulted, went to the police who were 100% useless. Waited a few weeks and beat the guy to a bloody pulp. Justice served. As an aside, when I reported it to the Gardai I gave them the name and address of the guy who sucker head butted me, name and number of the manager in the nightclub who had the assault on dvd from the CCTV, names and numbers of bouncers who’d seen it happen and the names of about 5 witnesses who’d left their names numbers with the bouncer. He told me he’d look into it and get back to me. That was about 10+ years ago, still waiting to hear back.
Wanderer78 wrote: » Hmmm, can someone who may have physical health issues, carry shopping home? Were our communities closer knit 50 years ago? Spend much time around elderly people, walking tends to be a problem with their physical health issues?
Graces7 wrote: » Family units were more close knit 50 years ago. So fewer old folk left alone. I do not think he meant literally walk as in ability but in proximity. Few rural dwellers live within walking distance of shops, church etc. whatever their age.
Graces7 wrote: » Fighting crime with crime is appalling; and not even on the spur of the moment but planned and calculated .. That is not justice.
weldoninhio wrote: Could the elderly carry them home 50 years ago?? Have our elders gone soft?
weldoninhio wrote: I'll ask again, "Whats happened over the past 50 years that's impacted on their walking ability??"
Wanderer78 wrote: » I'd recommend spending some time with some elderly people, they are very well informed in such matters, they would also probably appreciate the chat, but it's important not to be judgemental and critical in such interactions, you will learn a lot
