Stephen15 wrote: » I was on a bus today and some pigs left the bus in an absolute mess. Someone left a rotting away disgusting half eaten sandwich on the ground, a load of chicken bones the smell was disgusting and bag full of household waste must be people using buses to fly tip. I'm not blaming DB for this but people should have more respect for others than to treat public transport a dumping ground. I don't neessecarily mind food and drink on buses a can of coke or a packet sweets is ok if you take the empty wrappers with you but people should have more respect than to eat anything that smells, crumbs or leave they're empties behind.
dublinbuster wrote: » where is nearest toilet to terminus on south and north side? what time do pubs open at? do you expect female drivers to squat and piss on side of road? simple little thing like needing to piss can cause a bus to be delayed, zero consideration given to this when choosing terminus of route
lucernarian wrote: » Drivers *can* get marked in a fair bit sooner if they go for more unpopular routes, I've heard of drivers being marked in after 5 years service. What those routes are? I don't know.
dublinman1990 wrote: » I suspect the passengers would be screwed either way as their scheduled bus will not be showing up at their stop. Then these passengers would have a choice to make afterwards. If they wait for another bus at their stop; they will take it. If they have a train service near to them; they will take it. If they have a LUAS near to them; they will take it. They could ring up their loved one or friend for a lift. If all the above options fail; they will probably walk if they are able for it.
LeinsterDub wrote: » I never equated the number of routes with the difficulty finding staff . My point was . While in theory you could have 1 route with 50 drivers or 50 routes with 1 driver. Each route you add increases the HR overhead , increases the impact of holidays or sickness. If you've 1 route with 50 drivers you can have 60 drivers hired , allow 5 to be on holiday and 5 a spares. If you've 50 routes with 1 driver , each route needs a driver to cover it , this could be a pool of spares but it's a bit much to expect the spares to know every route so maybe you need 20 spares. What happens when 1 drives is on holiday and the spare is sick etc.
KD345 wrote: » Every Dublin Bus depot has a large pool of spare drivers who are trained on all routes, and most other drivers from each depot would have good knowledge of them too. Staff training is not the problem here, neither are the route variations. While you quote 143 routes, there are realistically less than 70 ‘routes’ for drivers in Dublin Bus, with multiple routes treated as one duty. For example, a driver on the 42 would also work some of their shift on the 43, similar with the 7/7a, and routes like the 26, 66/a/b are all under the one duty. To the passenger they are all different but internally it’s a lot more simple.
KD345 wrote: » The number of routes does not mean each route has the same number of drivers allocated to it. You could have 50 routes and still need the same level of buses and drivers. Some Dublin Bus routes only require one driver and bus, others have over 60. Also, some routes have drivers which would cover multiple routes, for example, some driver shifts on the 46A would also cover the 46E, 47, 63, 118 and 142. Some drivers also work universal shifts which means they could be driving one route in the morning and another in the evening. It’s easy to say, “they have 143 routes, no wonder they are struggling to find staff”, but the fact is that each of those routes are required across the network. There are plans to improve routes with Bus Connects which might see less route variations but actually result in more busies and more drivers required.
lucernarian wrote: » Yeah, the only drivers I met who left Dublin Bus, had been in the company for less than 3 years. Not that I know many ex-DB drivers who weren't retired, but it matches my limited observations. Drivers *can* get marked in a fair bit sooner if they go for more unpopular routes, I've heard of drivers being marked in after 5 years service. What those routes are? I don't know.
devnull wrote: » The staff leaving in their droves I would suspect would be those who are newer to the company. When any kind of seniority system is in place, the biggest problem you will have is being able to retain recently hired staff as they get disillusioned easily as everything is stacked against them.
Stephen15 wrote: » Surprised so 60% of drivers are marked in meaning they've served for around 15 years. How come if drivers are leaving their droves how come DB have such a high staff retention rate?
dublinbuster wrote: » marked in/spare
Stephen15 wrote: » In favour of?
dublinbuster wrote: » heard 60/40 split
Stephen15 wrote: » Out of all DB drivers what percentage would be marked in on a route. .
howiya wrote: » 42 minute wait for a 14 at Eden Quay. Got to love public transport. Hails taxi
KD345 wrote: » Why? It carries good numbers and adds much needed capacity at peak times on the Stillorgan Road. No matter what you send down the the N11 at peak will be full, whether it’s a 46a or 46e. Don’t judge a route by its timetable. I’d suggest taking the 116 some morning from Whitechurch and see how quickly a VT fills up. The once a day services are there for a reason and usually carry regular passengers from local areas before joining main corridors to add capacity. If they were not picking up numbers they’d have been cancelled during Network Direct. Stand on Leeson Street bridge and observe the 46e. It is full every morning.
Stephen15 wrote: » The one or two a day buses such as the the 46e should really be done away. They should be replaced by extra departures on more frequent routes.
LeinsterDub wrote: » We need less routes not more . No wonder DB are struggling to allocate staff they've 143 routes listed on their web site!
LeinsterDub wrote: » I've never heard of this is Ireland . What law?
(3) The annual leave of an employee who works 8 or more months in a leave year shall, subject to the provisions of any employment regulation order, registered employment agreement, collective agreement or any agreement between the employee and his or her employer, include an unbroken period of 2 weeks.
Del2005 wrote: » By law staff have to get 2 weeks holidays in a row every year. If you have to give holidays and there is no other staff to cover the shift how is the person supposed to get their legally required holiday that you told them they have to take at a certain date? In a company with staffing shortages and bad conditions for new entrants you don't want to be loosing the staff you already have by forcing them to cancel holidays they've already paid for. In the private sector sone companies close for 2 weeks in the summer and a week over Christmas so their customers aren't coming first.
RobbingBandit wrote: » Needs to be an independent survey carried out on each and every dublin bus route and cross referenced for a full quality assessment some of the bus routes are downright mayhem 5 buses in quick succession then none for 45 minutes. Services need to be split in two directions over parts of the day make the city centre the terminus and send the buses in the opposite directions to say on the number 16 the airport northbound and Ballinter south bound rather than having the bus go cross city send them from an origin point in each direction it would increase productivity and reduce journey times anyone that needs to travel cross city offer a cross city fare.
punisher5112 wrote: » Complain directly to Anne Graham nta, Ray Coyne db CEO, tds in area as much as can.
Caranica wrote: » If you guys have issues on the 39 routes,you should try slumming it over this side of Blanchardstown on the 38 routes. The 38bs in the morning run when and if they want to, so unreliable. Ditto any type of 38 in the evenings from the city centre, last Tuesday there was a 39 minute wait on O'Connell Street at 6.20pm. Not the nicest place to be waiting. And don't get me started on the weekend services.
