billybonkers wrote: » Good man for sticking to your guns, you will no doubt be much happier for it. Plenty of great IT jobs around also. Hope the proposal goes well!!
Steven Seagal wrote: » Thanks alot, the work environment has been extremely sour but i’m glad I made the call to leave.
salmocab wrote: » Steven Seagal wrote: » Thanks alot, the work environment has been extremely sour but i’m glad I made the call to leave. I’d imagine it’s sour because your manager got a bollocking for their handling of this. They’re probably pissed off that you took it so far and they are left carrying the can. You should make it very clear in the exit interview exactly what happened to save others the hassle in future.
Steven Seagal wrote: » Sorry for the delay, long story short, the meeting turned into a lot of he said, she said about approving time off. I contacted the colleague who had a longer PTO request approved last year and he agreed he would provide testimony if I wanted to take this further. Once upper management heard I handed in my notice, they said I could take 2 weeks PTO paid plus 1 extra day but no longer than that. So I stuck to my guns and im leaving friday week. I also have an exit interview planned on Monday and I heard that the EU director of operations sits in so will make it perfectly clear of what happened.
gimli2112 wrote: » some people really shouldn't be managers, fair play to you op think you've handled this really well
Steven Seagal wrote: » that. So I stuck to my guns and im leaving friday week.
Blazer wrote: » Women in general tend to be worse managers despite the whole gender equality thing. You can be guaranteed she’ll shift the whole blame for this onto his immediate manager and while he could he handled it better at the end of the day she was the one who said NO. Fair play op and best of luck in the future !!
Blazer wrote: » gimli2112 wrote: » some people really shouldn't be managers, fair play to you op think you've handled this really well Women in general tend to be worse managers despite the whole gender equality thing. You can be guaranteed she’ll shift the whole blame for this onto his immediate manager and while he could he handled it better at the end of the day she was the one who said NO. Fair play op and best of luck in the future !!
secondrowgal wrote: » Blazer wrote: » Women in general tend to be worse managers despite the whole gender equality thing. You can be guaranteed she’ll shift the whole blame for this onto his immediate manager and while he could he handled it better at the end of the day she was the one who said NO. Fair play op and best of luck in the future !! Ah come on, what absolute tosh. I have had male and female managers, and am now a manager myself, and I found good and bad in both. But in general, I found the women better. Plus my staff all stay with our company long-term so I'm taking that as a plus for me
Heres Johnny wrote: » secondrowgal wrote: » Blazer wrote: » Women in general tend to be worse managers despite the whole gender equality thing. You can be guaranteed she’ll shift the whole blame for this onto his immediate manager and while he could he handled it better at the end of the day she was the one who said NO. Fair play op and best of luck in the future !! Ah come on, what absolute tosh. I have had male and female managers, and am now a manager myself, and I found good and bad in both. But in general, I found the women better. Plus my staff all stay with our company long-term so I'm taking that as a plus for me You can't say what a load of tosh and act offended when he said that men are better managers than women then go on yourself and say women are better than men!! Wheres the equality!!!!! In many cases women managers are token appointments!
Banterbus28 wrote: » Heres Johnny wrote: » secondrowgal wrote: » Blazer wrote: » Women in general tend to be worse managers despite the whole gender equality thing. You can be guaranteed she’ll shift the whole blame for this onto his immediate manager and while he could he handled it better at the end of the day she was the one who said NO. Fair play op and best of luck in the future !! Ah come on, what absolute tosh. I have had male and female managers, and am now a manager myself, and I found good and bad in both. But in general, I found the women better. Plus my staff all stay with our company long-term so I'm taking that as a plus for me You can't say what a load of tosh and act offended when he said that men are better managers than women then go on yourself and say women are better than men!! Wheres the equality!!!!! In many cases women managers are token appointments! Feminazis are everywhere
Steven Seagal wrote: » I told them I would have no option but to leave as I wasn’t not going to take the holiday. The US mananger immediately ended the meeting and scheduled another meeting next week with HR.
Steven Seagal wrote: » I also have an exit interview planned on Monday and I heard that the EU director of operations sits in so will make it perfectly clear of what happened.
davo10 wrote: » On the other hand, the moral of the story could also be, do not book an expensive holiday until you have submitted the required written request and received confirmation.
Banterbus28 wrote: » For the last time OP had received approval the same way he'd received approval before. So there was a pattern that this was an acceptable practice.
davo10 wrote: » Banterbus28 wrote: » For the last time OP had received approval the same way he'd received approval before. So there was a pattern that this was an acceptable practice. Verbal, not written, if you look back at the ops posts, he/she was told to submit a written request.
TallGlass wrote: » I think the moral of the story here is, how an issue that should have been handled in house with 'manager A' (should have and could have been resolved here at this stage) Instead 'manager B' wanted there say and instead of standing by the 'manager A' decision rightly or wrongly I might add, has now escalated a situation so badly, you've an employee leaving, and EU Director of Operations wanting to talk to said employee. Sorry, 'manager B' has caused a cluster fúck of a situation, and is a so called 'senior manager'. I have a feeling and I noticed this with a lot of US workers, they never back down, the senior manager should have known from experience this was going to end badly, there was a commitment made to the employee, and instead of getting facts and handling the situation based on that and then doing an as they call it in corporate world 'lessons learn' after, the manager B steam rolled ahead and wouldn't back down and admit they where wrong. I'd say someone is going to get there arse handed to them on plate by the EU director and rightly so. It's time off here we are talking about, easy to handle and no fuss. But somehow two managers have made such a cluster fúck out of it an employee is leaving and leaving the EU director thinking is this fella going to come back with an unfair dismissle case against us.
