FTA69 wrote: » I've no doubt officialdom in all its forms failed those girls, the people who committed those crimes should be lifed off and anyone in the know should be banged up as well as far as I'm concerned.The cops have gone to great pains to say they've avoided arresting people due to political correctness but it doesn't seem to stop them arresting and charging black and Asian people in massive numbers everywhere else and stopping and searching at a far higher rate. Cops over here (like in Ireland) lie to cover their arses and I suspect this is no different.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Nobody said he was responsible. It was a comment on the type of people that support tommy.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » perhaps you should concentrate on the substantive part of the article.
FTA69 wrote: » Lol explain how Allah was a paedophile?
markodaly wrote: » He took an 8 year old girl as a wife, but some Islamic scholars say she was 12, which makes it OK I suppose... lol :pac:
markodaly wrote: » So, you admit that the authorities and the police did in fact fail to act because of political correctness and to avoid the appearance of racism. Well kudos for that. Regardless of anything else, this is the most shocking part of it all. I don't give a **** about Tommy Robinson or who ever he is called. I do give a **** about the state and the authorities turning a blind eye to such matters as to not rock the boat or that it may upset a core part of a certain constituency as it may cost them a few votes. We had the same crap in Ireland for decades, where the main political parties would not make decisions or rock the boat when it came to the church and their morals. Who did that work out in the end? Not very well I think we can both agree. Yet, here we are and something similar is happening across the water and the progressives are looking at each other like idiots hoping it would all go away. This is why people lose faith in 'liberal' politicians and spokespeople, because take away the venner of tolerance, they are very much authoritarian and machiavellian if there is a cost to be paid, to do what is morally right. If the police and Labour did their job, there would be no Tommy Robinson. Focus on the cause, not the symptom.
markodaly wrote: » If we are discussing Tommy Robinson in isolation, how is he responsible for tweets sent to Own Jones. Isn't he in Jail? Are the public figures who advocated a Yes vote responsible for similar treats made against David Quinn or Maria Steen? No, because of course that would be stupid. The people responsible for those tweets are the people who sent them, no one else...
FTA69 wrote: » Muhammad, did in fact marry Aisha when she was young and the age estimates between 12 and 19. Which wasn't at all uncommon for seventh century Arabia believe it or not. Likewise it wasn't uncommon in Europe until a few hundred years back with the Pope presiding over Royal marriages across Europe between men and girls; somehow we aren't denigrating Christianity or Europe as being inherently paedophilic though are we?
FTA69 wrote: » Give over. I'm sick to my balls of hearing this 'HOW AM I A RACIST ISLAMISNOTARACE' spiel out of him and his mates. How is he a racist? Perhaps we can deduce that he's a racist due to the fact he was a member of multiple f*cking racist organisations in the past and currently supports racist organisations today? Let's look at this more closely; Robinson is a former member of the BNP, an openly racist party that engaged in Holocaust denial, pushed the idea that black people were inferior to white people, whose policies included deportation of blacks and Asians and who physically and brutally attacked minorities in the U.K. He was a member of this organisation for a year. He later says he didn't know the BNP was anti-black. If you believe that mate I've some magic beans to sell you. He later joined the British Freedom Party, an organisation set up by former BNP members and members of the National Front - including people with convictions for racially motivated violence. Strike 2. He currently supports Generation Identity - an actual fascist organisation who espouse the fundamental whiteness of Europe and are white supremacists with the edges shaved off. Proving how Tommy Robinson is a racist is as simple as looking at his past and present affiliations to political racists. Including ones which despised Irish people, making the fact some Irish people support him even more of a mystery to me. What I'd love to know is what you or other fans of his think this charlatan is going to achieve? How is he going to stop nonces, by disrupting their trials so they get off scot free? Nice one. How is he going to fight Islamic extremism, by leading a bunch of p*ssed up football fans into Asian communities shouting "Allah is a paedo"? This lad doesn't give a toss about child victims or Islamic extremism, he's a nasty opportunist jumping on issues to promote himself and the far right. Nothing more.
Tipsy McSwagger wrote: » Yeah yeah proof please.
FTA69 wrote: » Who is Allah mate? If you're going to 'expose' Islam then at least know who and what you're on about. Muhammad, did in fact marry Aisha when she was young and the age estimates between 12 and 19. Which wasn't at all uncommon for seventh century Arabia believe it or not. Likewise it wasn't uncommon in Europe until a few hundred years back with the Pope presiding over Royal marriages across Europe between men and girls; somehow we aren't denigrating Christianity or Europe as being inherently paedophilic though are we?
dude_abided wrote: » Ah classic whataboutism when used to contest anything to do with islam.... And source for being up to 19 I seem to remember 6-9 being more accurate...
FTA69 wrote: » Waffle, you mean the facts I posted which Robinson admitted to on live television? Why then did he set up the BFP with loads of ex NF and BNP members? Why is he supporting Generation Identity? More importantly, what does he hope to achieve and how does he hope to achieve it? Why is he jeopardising the trials of nonces if he wants them jailed?
FTA69 wrote: » They say consummation took place after her menstruation. Which basically made Muhammad no different to anyone in historical Europe either. Trying to apply modern sexual standards to 1400 years ago is thick, and if we label entire civilisations "paedos" on that basis then it will also apply to us. Does that not make sense like? Source for Aisha's age is in the guardian article posted a page or two back.
dude_abided wrote: » Why is he supporting BFP? God forbid anyone wants to actually debate the merits of immigration and come to the conclusion that parts are completely wrong. That you should instead just roll over and submit to a violent backwards religion. The hypocrisy of the west is astounding at the moment. You must protest/referendum this, that and the other liberal issue. Another pertinent hashtag this week? What else can we find wrong with society... Yet try and debate let alone start a movement against a religion that quite happily ignores any such progress and it's suddenly "racist" or any of the other bollix designed to shut down a conversation..
ohnonotgmail wrote: » and the BNP. Dont forget the BNP.
dude_abided wrote: » Some backwards farmer from some time in the past is not comparable to someone who wrote a violent book which is used to shape the morals of 1bn+ people. And the Guardian is wrong. Even Islamic sites themselves are happy to cite the age... quote below from two such reports in Bukhari. “It is reported from Aisha that she said: The Prophet entered into marriage with me when I was a girl of six … and at the time [of joining his household] I was a girl of nine years of age.” “Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed [alone] for two years or so. He married Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old.” [3]
professore wrote: » He says he went to one meeting when 17 or 18 (can't remember - think it was the Oxford speech) and brought his black friend along to a second meeting. When they wouldn't let him in he promptly resigned. No idea if that's true. Its definitely true that the EDL had members from lots of ethnic groups.
FTA69 wrote: » He joined when he was 20 and was a member for a year. Apparently during this period he didn't discover that the most famous racist party in Britain was actually racist and he also didn't know who the leader was. Of a tiny political party. Come on like. If someone told you they spent a year in SF and didn't know who Gerry Adams or the IRA were would you believe them? You are right though, the EDL did attract some people from ethnic minorities.
seachto7 wrote: » Nawaz book worth a read. Surprised he is not on mainstream media more
professore wrote: » Yeah hard to swallow. Why do you think people from other ethnic minorities would join the EDL? A party with at least a reputation for being far right? Maybe because their children were being raped and the authorities turned a blind eye?
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