Officials have reported an increase in hacking and dissemination of fake news. The aim, they say, is to undermine the stability of Swedish society and spread falsehoods. A study by researchers at the Swedish Institute of International Affairs reported a "wide array" of Russian actions to influence public opinion. It suggested there had been misleading media reports and that fake news was being used to "frame Nato as an aggressor and military threat, the EU as in terminal decline, and Russia as under siege from hostile Western governments".
Elmer Blooker wrote: » If those gullible Swedes believed that there was a Russian submarine hiding in their waters they would believe anything. Since you posted this piece of mindless propaganda Dohnjoe could you please explain what exactly would Putin want from Sweden? The anti Russia propaganda is really being ramped up ahead of the World Cup, I can see Putin personally bombing an orphanage just before the World Cup kicks off, the masses would believe anything as Goebbels proved.
kooper wrote: » It's so funny when russian supporters talk about Goebbels like propaganda... Don't they like their own medicine, I wonder ?
Dohnjoe wrote: » I remember when Kremlin was pumping out the propaganda that Russian troops seizing areas in Crimea were actually local militia.. and the usual Putin supporters were of course supporting this line It got interesting when Putin changed tack completely and publicly stated that it wasn't militia, that it was indeed Russian military.. certain Putin supporters were still clinging to the propaganda and passionately arguing that it was the militia These are not rational minds we are dealing with here :pac:
Elmer Blooker wrote: » Russian "meddling" because there isn't any, there never is.
Elmer Blooker wrote: » So, where were we?
Elmer Blooker wrote: » So, where were we? Oh yes, Sweden. Second time asking, what exactly does Putin want from Sweden? This Swedish think-tank, whatever they are called provide no evidence whatsoever of Russian "meddling" because there isn't any, there never is. Russia seizing Crimea? That would mean the Russian population of Crimea are now living under Russian occupation! :pac:
Sweden’s foreign intelligence agency considers Russia as the biggest source of cyber attacks and influence operations against the country. The head of the Swedish Military Intelligence and Security Service (Must) said, “It is pretty easy for me to say that many of the activities we are subject to have a clear sender, they can be traced more or less directly.”
Dohnjoe wrote: » Sweden bracing itself for Russian meddling ahead of it's election. Business as usual.http://www.bbc.com/news/world-44070469
el diablo wrote: » Meanwhile the US has interfered in the elections of other nations
el diablo wrote: » Meanwhile the US has interfered in the elections of other nations on over eighty separate occasions. And illegally invaded over seventy nations since its foundation. Why do you Russophobes choose to ignore these facts?
Dohnjoe wrote: » I fully agree. But is this thread not about Putin?
cnocbui wrote: » Why do yo think so simplistically that it's an either / or situation? Abhorrent behaviour by the US does not justify or mitigate the same by Russia. If the US had engaged in the use of chemical weapons against individuals in Europe there would be condemnation and uproar. The tragedy for the Russian people is that Putin ducked up badly when he decided to reconstitute the USSR under his sole dictatorship. Everything was looking up for Russian / European relations, the economy, living standards until he went stupid and did the Crimea thing.
el diablo wrote: » Russia would've been one of these illegally invaded countries if not for their ability to assert themselves on the world stage.
el diablo wrote: » They have also almost completely surrounded Russia with US and NATO military bases.
el diablo wrote: » He did the "Crimea thing" because
Nixonbot wrote: » I suggest you consult a map.
el diablo wrote: » As per your suggestion.
Nixonbot wrote: » Well that's all kinds of wrong. There are zero US bases in Kazakhstan, and I'm struggling to see how a military base could be located in Svalbard, considering it's totally demilitarised.
el diablo wrote: » Yes, Svalbard is supposed to be demilitarized but NATO have constructed a sophisticated new radar system/ballistic missile defense (BMD) system there (pointed at Russia) which is a violation of international law. The US will provide Norway with over 50 US F-35 stealth fighters (nuclear capable) in 2019 enabling it to strike Russian territory.
Nixonbot wrote: » No such system exists there. Bit like your Kazakhstan bases I guess.
The extra electricity is needed to power an American-funded radar system under construction on an island in sight of the Kola Peninsula, a frigid Russian territory studded with high-security naval bases and restricted military zones...... The joint American-Norwegian radar project, which will cost hundreds of millions of dollars and consume substantial amounts of electricity, has infuriated Moscow, which sees it as part of a Pentagon drive to encircle and contain Mr. Putin’s resurgent Russia. The Russian ambassador in Oslo, Norway’s capital, recently warned Norway that it should “not be na” about Russia’s readiness to respond...... The new radar system at Vardo will merely upgrade an earlier American-built radar system and continue its mission, Morten Haga Lunde, the chief of Norway’s military intelligence agency, said in a cryptic statement last year. That mission, he added, is to track space debris like defunct satellites and to “monitor our national area of interest in the North.”........... But Russia’s generals and many Norwegians have dismissed the space-trash story. They say they believe that the new Globus 3 radar is part of the Pentagon’s efforts to develop a global missile-defense system, making it a prime target for attack in the event of a conflict.
el diablo wrote: » https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/13/world/europe/arctic-norway-russia-radar.html?mcubz=0
el diablo wrote: » He did the "Crimea thing" because the US and its lackeys interfered in the Ukrainian elections and installed a puppet government (in an attempt to co-opt Ukraine into becoming a NATO member). They have also almost completely surrounded Russia with US and NATO military bases. Did you expect Putin to idly stand by and not react to such extreme provocation?
cnocbui wrote: » Putin meddled in Ukrainian elections and installed his own puppet governments.
Nixonbot wrote: » ...and I'm struggling to see how a military base could be located in Svalbard, considering it's totally demilitarised.
zom wrote: » He also medled in USA election and Brexit. He is spying all Americans by his agents in Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. He caused NSA to spy EU politics and probably all EU citizens. He is pure evil I would say !!
Dohnjoe wrote: » Oh and here is Yanukovych's dainty place in comparison
