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Can a settled person become a "traveller" ?

Dr Brown

I would like to become a "traveller" so that I can become tax exempt and not be subject to the normal rules of society.

If I turned up to social welfare and said that I now consider myself to be a "traveller" would they set me up as one ?

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diggerdigger

goose2005 wrote: »

probably because they were poor. The best defence against burglars is rich neighbours

Quite the opposite. It was the big house. Full of lots of antiques.

Though in retrospect, it was owned by an alcoholic lunatic farmer with a shotgun. so maybe that had something to do with it.

sbsquarepants

diggerdigger wrote: »

It was the big house. Full of lots of antiques.

His, or the other neighbours?:D

dd972

In England, there is a sort of cross pollination that occurs more frequently between settled and Traveller people, a young man or woman from an underclass or poor background can end up marrying into an English Romanichal or Irish traveller family whom are usually social housing based, generally because they drink in the same pubs or interact in the same areas, the London/Kent borders for example has a lot of this going on.

A lot of poor areas with high rates of criminality have a high incidence of folk getting shacked up with each other's cousins as opposed to their own first or second ones as Travellers do, so they're sort of endogenous at a further remove.

Colonel Claptrap

Excellent use of the term cross pollination!

suicide_circus

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

Excellent use of the term cross pollination!

Cultural Appropriation you mean!

Although fair is fair, some travellers culturally appropriated some plant machinery out of my cousin's yard in Westmeath last October.

Permabear

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judeboy101

Permabear wrote: »

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You can't, in fact you can claim to be a Jewish black cis-gendered prophetess and thanks to our looney equality laws you have to be accepted as such.

Permabear

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Necro

Permabear wrote:

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:pac: that probably comes from all the alleged cousin marrying

Samuel T. Cogley

Grayson wrote: »

He said traveller, not northsider.

**** you! I don't slap my wife about.

(too fecking scared too!)

Ipso

Necrominus wrote: »

:pac: that probably comes from all the alleged cousin marrying

That is the main difference. At some point in Irish history (about 400 or 500 years ago) some people took on a "nomadic" life style and became more endogamous.

Mutant z

Well if travellers can become settled i see no reason why the opposote can't occur.

Samuel T. Cogley

Mutant z wrote: »

Well if travellers can become settled i see no reason why the opposote can't occur.

Yeah but do you become a 'traveller' or just a traveller?

_Whimsical_

judeboy101 wrote: »

Some kids in my school are registered as travellers, they ain't travellers but we know they are doing it to access HEAR for leaving cert points . For those in the know they are using the 1,2,4 route as 5,6 doesn't apply to our school.

Seriously?
Is it the school that sets this up or have parents decided to go this route themselves? This is mad. I imagine it could prove quite popular! I can see this scheme is probably necessary for travellers but how are other people getting it?

This would mean they'd receive college offers for reduced points than the rest of the leaving cert population and would be entitled to extra supports in college from one to one tuition where needed to increased access to bursaries and grants.

punisher5112

Take every 2nd esb poll and phone poll and train tracks, and wiring for the signals.

When you have done this then come back and take the phone cables and the other poles.

Then rack up to the social and state you can't read a fecking thing and would like a curry with beef.
Act all lost.

Mrs OBumble

Mutant z wrote: »

Well if travellers can become settled i see no reason why the opposote can't occur.

Just because an Irish person moves to Australia doesn't make them stop being Irish.

Ditto just 'cos a Traveller moves into a house doesn't make them not a Traveller any more.

fxotoole

Dr Brown wrote: »

I would like to become a "traveller" so that I can become tax exempt and not be subject to the normal rules of society.

If I turned up to social welfare and said that I now consider myself to be a "traveller" would they set me up as one ?

Any good at fighting, OP?

Hector Savage

Permabear wrote: »

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Genetic differences as in "more likely to be inbred?"

wexie

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

This would mean they'd receive college offers for reduced points than the rest of the leaving cert population and would be entitled to extra supports in college from one to one tuition where needed to increased access to bursaries and grants.

is this modern day 'equality' at work?

tabby aspreme

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Do you fancy your cousin OP?

You need to be, your own cousin once removed, to meet the criteria

SEPT 23 1989

You need to fight Aney McGinleys sons

RobbingBandit

How did you escape the Libyans

punisher5112

Sell gates or peeps own tools back to them.

DEFTLEFTHAND

wexie wrote: »

is this modern day 'equality' at work?

It's basically 'Affirmitive Action.

You see it in the States with SAT scores. It ends up impacting on those from more privileged backgrounds as they're held to higher standards.

Shurimgreat

Burn your house down and claim discrimination if you aren't jumped immediately to the top of the council housing list.

[Deleted User]

Dr Brown wrote:

I would like to become a "traveller" so that I can become tax exempt and not be subject to the normal rules of society.

Marry one & you can become a traveller.

Dtp1979

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Marry one & you can become a traveller.

That’s actually true. I know 2 people who have done this, I shjt you not

Roger Hassenforder

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Marry one & you can become a traveller.

Too late for any of the 15yrs old+ members here.

ED E

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Ditto just 'cos a Traveller moves into a house doesn't make them not a Traveller any more.

Nah, but when they meet their 2nd cousin down the local and he stabs em in the chest it does. Then they're just wormfood.

_Whimsical_

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It's basically 'Affirmitive Action.

You see it in the States with SAT scores. It ends up impacting on those from more privileged backgrounds as they're held to higher standards.

A rising tide raises all boats though. Where travelers are concerned more integration and emphasis on adopting values of settled people will mean a better society for everyone, less taxes to pay to support them in the future for one thing, hopefully less criminality. I think a move towards third level education and more critical thought could be an essential part of the answer to a lot of the problems posed by the travelling community.