el diablo wrote: » It appears to have been an extremely biased investigation. Guess we'll never find out what actually did happen that day...
cnocbui wrote: » Actually it was a very even-handed and thorough investigation.
Elmer Blooker wrote: » Was it? I would be more interested in what the flight recorders disclosed rather than "evidence" from a bloke sitting at home in Leicester.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » I thought the investigators were dutch myself. Is leicester now in holland?
Elmer Blooker wrote: » The flight recorders were sent to the UK which is not one of the countries taking part in the investigation and the UK is not in Holland either!
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Ah so the english faked the flight recorder data at the request of the dutch? Do i have that right?
Elmer Blooker wrote: » The murder of journalists in Ukraine is unfortunately commonplace,
DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: » Pity this crowd of savages bought the World Cup. It should have been in England this year. It would have been great craic, we all could have gone over to it regardless of our fellas not qualifying.
Vladimir Putin’s regional apparatchiks have been accused of turning World Cup sites into modern-day Potemkin villages – a reference to the way tsarist officials allegedly painted scenes on Catherine the Great’s route so that she was unaware of the abject poverty of her peasants. In addition, Russians are being banned from looking out of the windows of their flats and forbidden to use their balconies during the World Cup.
Billy86 wrote: » "Traitors will kick the bucket." - Vladimir Putin.
alchemist33 wrote: » https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2018/0529/966945-babchenko-ukraine/ Not for the first time, someone who opposes Putin and his regime has been murdered, this time a journalist in exile in Ukraine. Probably just coincidence though.
An independent investigation by journalists which was published as online documentary has revealed severe short-comings in the official investigation and has implicated involvement of the Ukrainian secret service.
alchemist33 wrote: » https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2018/0529/966945-babchenko-ukraine/ Not for the first time, someone who opposes Putin and his regime has been murdered, this time a journalist in exile in Ukraine. Probably just coincidence though. Or MI5. Or the CIA Or the Pastafarians.
Your man who was supposedly killed has just turned up at a press conference
DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: » .....I hope these clowns don't end up killing people over there.
Dohnjoe wrote: » The Kremlin (and it's outlets) will now play this as "well if this was staged, what else is staged" and "you see, everything is a conspiracy against Russia" Calling it now
Elmer Blooker wrote: » Anything .. and I mean anything is possible in Ukraine!
Elmer Blooker wrote: » No coincidence, just the usual hoax.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44307611 Weren't the Skripals dead too? Anything .. and I mean anything is possible in Ukraine!
In an extraordinary development, the high-profile critic of the Kremlin appeared live on Ukrainian TV. The head of Ukraine's security services told reporters the "murder" had been staged after Ukraine learned of a Russian plot to kill the journalist. Vasyl Hrytsak said the hit was "ordered by Russian security services". There were gasps and applause as Mr Babchenko entered the room for the press conference on Wednesday. He thanked the Ukrainian security services for saving his life. The Russian foreign ministry said in a statement it was happy that Mr Babchenko was alive. Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said the staged murder was done for "propagandistic effect", Russia's Interfax news agency reported.
weisses wrote: » Yup ... Russian BUK systems crossing the border and shooting down a boeing 777
