sporina wrote: » a mate who strongly opposes the repeal reckons that the storm last night was nature's way of expressing its rage at the result of the referendum :eek:
freshpopcorn wrote: » Yes, I am from a real farming background. People haven't much time for vegans. I know farmers who've accepted gay family members, marrying different races, religions, etc but being a vegan would be tough. People see vegan vets/nurses more suited to more domestic/horsey type of veterinary than the farming area of it.
Wrongway1985 wrote: » Look man terminations were carried out here on grounds of suicidal tribulations, it was covered in the 2013 Act it isn't in the proposed legislation here as it is already in play - it appears you have overlooked 5 years of the system being abused. Honest women; our countries women had to hang heads in shame and lurk in shadows to organize trips abroad as we didn't provide for them here that is the truth. Nobody wants to go down the trust women road again.
Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: » I never said every rape was violent and know someone who gave birth twice and didn't know they were pregnant till the hospital told them. It's a pity the yes side feel they needn't entertain the hard questions for these hard cases. I just hope our politicians deal with them when framing legislation otherwise we'll have very poor legislation.
Flex wrote: » speaking anecdotally, there has been a wonderful buzz and atmosphere around Dublin city centre and at home yesterday and today. I honestly thought there was a chance the No side would win; going around knowing ~75-80% of the people around you supported compassion and kindness and are good people is a very nice feeling Enjoy it
freshpopcorn wrote: » I'd say that view was shared a good bit amongst religious No voters!
Water John wrote: » Why did the people of Louth and Dublin escape the storm?
Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: » It rained last night. I wasn't expecting it but that's just because I didn't get an opportunity to read the weather forum. Note to self. Check it out for next weekend;)
Fighting Tao wrote: » Pot, kettle!!! You’ve ignored the hard questions yourself.
Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: » On the contrary. They are questions I grappled with over the last few months. Exit polls and posts on boards show a lot of people had an issue with the 12 week, no reason given abortion. I'm very much in that group. It was a black and white question to a situation that's far from black and white.
Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: » Exit polls and posts on boards show a lot of people had an issue with the 12 week, no reason given abortion. I'm very much in that group. It was a black and white question to a situation that's far from black and white.
wexie wrote: » clearly not a particularly smart farmer, while perhaps he might have had somewhat of a point if your missus was an extremist vegan going around giving farmers lots of grief.....my guess that's not the case if she works in a country vet practice. Just shows ta go ya....dickheads in every walk of life, farmer dickheads, vegan dickheads, anti-choice dickheads, pro-choice dickheads.... they're everywhere
Fighting Tao wrote: » You are complaining about people from the yes side not answering tough questions in this thread. You have totally ignored the tough questions asked of you but sure you deflect.
Water John wrote: » You might push, but the medic might say no.
Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: » So you admit the system is prone to abuse...thanks for confirming that. 2 things we've agreed on today...wonders will never cease
Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: » I never said every rape was violent and know someone who gave birth twice and didn't know they were pregnant till the hospital told them.It's a pity the yes side feel they needn't entertain the hard questions for these hard cases. I just hope our politicians deal with them when framing legislation otherwise we'll have very poor legislation.
wexie wrote: » nature's way or god's way? It's important to establish quite which type of lunacy he's suffering from
eeepaulo wrote: » The thing i found interesting in the exit poll was the 12 week approval figure, only 52%.
end of the road wrote: » indeed it is . many of us on the no side voted for compassion and kindness also and are good people.
swampgas wrote: » That's enough though, it's more than 50%. Especially when many people who have reservations simply don't understand where the figure comes from. Some people genuinely seem to think a pregnant woman has 12 weeks to decide what to do, instead of maybe 3 or 4 weeks in reality. Ask people again in a few years and many more will (IMO) be okay with 12 weeks, as they will have had a chance to understand it better. So while it's 52% now, I'd expect that percentage to increase rather than decrease over time.
Beechwoodspark wrote: » I know a few no voters. They are all exceptionally good ppl and voted for compassion towards the unborn.
eeepaulo wrote: » The ignorance shown in this thread by some of the posters on the No side, even now, is breathtaking. I assume you spent the last few months with a mantra going on in your head "ABORTION IS WRONG" and didn't actually listen to any of the points made by anyone else, hey, its your right as a citizen.
Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: » I thought the Savita case made it very clear for medics that they didn't have to second guess themselves. It's funny how we've not heard of any other similar cases. Surely if it was the norm we'd know about it by now?
eeepaulo wrote: » Hey now, I agree! The joy I feel comes from the acceptance of experiences told by people which trump longstanding, (probably unchallenged) beliefs. The stories were told and the stories were believed , more than believed, they shaped the vote.
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