Deusexmachina wrote: » Jesus, thats my sleep ruined for the next few nights....the horror!!
RacoonQueen wrote: » There were never any 'winners' in this. What a woman or a couple must go through to come to the decision to seek an abortion is unimaginable. May this landslide result help the women who still have to travel each week until it all comes together, have easier journeys than those who went before them, knowing they are some of the last.
Billy86 wrote: » They were actually responding to my post, here is the full and comprehensive list of all countries with abortion laws most comparable to ours:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_law Angola, Central African Republic, Republic of the Congo, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Gabon, São Tomé and Príncipe, South Sudan, Egypt, Libya, Lesotho, Djibouti, Madagascar, Malawi, Mauritius, Somalia, Iraq, Andorra, San Marino, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Lesotho, Guatemala, Honduras, Paraguay, Suriname, Venezuela, Tonga, Tuvalu, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Micronesia, Marshall Islands, Kiribati, Palau. You can try and argue that impoverished or backwards countries have more freedom of abortion, but you'll need to include the likes of the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Korea, essentially all of Europe, etc etc in there as well.
Shurimgreat wrote: » This topic is going nowhere. Rich countries have abortion. Poor countries have abortion. Impoverished miserable ****holes have abortion. Some impoverished miserable ****holes have no abortion because they don't have enough doctors and even if they had the poor people cant afford or have access to them. Irrelevant topic of the year to go with the other irrelevant post from another poster.
woejus wrote: » So salty... your tone of bitter disappointment is such a joy to read.
Shurimgreat wrote: » Not salty at all. I was actually laughing at her post. Any more lies?
It wasnt me123 wrote: » No I don't but at least they won't have to slink off. They can go to their gps and probably get information and options. Last week they caught a plane with no back up medical treatment. No if they feel they have to catch a plane, their gp will be able to provide back up medical treatment with no problems. Thats what I meant. Now they can discuss options with their gps and get treatment and information from them.
January wrote: » There are definitely winners in this. Yes, the decision to have an abortion is a sad one and it's not one taken lightly but the winners are the women who can now make this decision on their own shores without having to find themselves in debt or shamed by their country. All the no side are going to have a good laugh with this now but tbh, I really don't give a flying fiddlers. Yesterday and today have been surreal, the exit poll last night was the first indication that Ireland actually was being pulled out of the dark ages and today has just confirmed it. I was afraid it would be so close, like divorce referendum close so when I saw the initial results last night I was afraid to hope, but when the boxes started being opened this morning it was amazing. Box after box after box coming out more than 50% yes, more than 60% yes... one box in my constituency had 91% in favour of repeal. Now we just have to make sure they pass this legislation. Still lots of work to do. This is not the end but it's a great start!
Shurimgreat wrote: » This topic is going nowhere. Rich countries have abortion. Poor countries have abortion. Impoverished miserable ****holes have abortion. Some impoverished miserable ****holes have no abortion because they don't have enough doctors and even if they had the poor people cant afford or have access to them.
Irrelevant topic of the year to go with the other irrelevant post from another poster.
woejus wrote: » “This topic is going nowhere”... yet here you still are. You lost. You get nothing. Good day, sir.
Mr.S wrote: » They can give all the information and options to a women they want until the cows come home, but to get an abortion, women will still need to travel abroad or order 'illegal' pills off the internet, so things will continue the same until legalisation has passed and the logistics are setup, which is ~12 months away. At least the women who have to travel, know that change is coming for the people following them. Doctors will be more sympathetic, sure, but nothing else changes, for now.
Deusexmachina wrote: » I suspect the costs here will still make England an option for many!
Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: » Looking like Donegal voted no
Shurimgreat wrote: » The topic re abortion in poor countries versus rich was going nowhere not the thread in general. Any more lies?
January wrote: » Doubt it. GP led service, medical card and drugs payment scheme will be used.
Shurimgreat wrote: » Thats one way of describing them. The other is as vote chasing populists who will tell the Yes voter in Caherciveen they now support the Yes side and the No voter in Kilorglin they were No all along.
Shurimgreat wrote: » Venezuela has abortion freely available. Remind us what state they are in?
Shurimgreat wrote: » I think I'd rather live in San Marino than Venezuela. I'm sure you'd feel the same way
In Venezuela, where ideology is still largely controlled by the Catholic Church, it is illegal to terminate a pregnancy unless the mother’s life is at risk or in the case of foetal impairment. It means that abortion is that second highest killer of women aged 12 to 49 in the country, according to online publication Latin America Bureau, and the cause of 16 per cent of all maternal deaths.
Deusexmachina wrote: » Maybe. Its primarily elective surgery though. And even if it is valid, most people dont have a medical card.
Sheeps wrote: » How many women die every year from pregnancy complications in Ireland?
