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Tommy Robinson jailed

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Apparently according to Lauren Southern, Tommy has been sentenced to 13 months but there is a UK wide embargo on reporting.

Anyone else got any info?

Edit. Not too sure about the authenticity of the embargo. I'm assuming that it's for this https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html?amp

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Call Me Jimmy

wes wrote: »

He had a suspended sentence for acting the maggot outside a court, and has done so again. There are restrictions about reporting ongoing court cases, especially those involving grooming cases involving children, those protections are there just as much to protect the identity of the victim, as well as to ensure a safe prosecution.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon's behavior could result in the accused not getting a fair trial, which could result in there release, but I guess far right politicking and self promotion is more important than justice being served.

Can someone explain the difference between what he does and what I see on the news where criminals are walking to court being asked questions? They often throw the jacket over their head? What was the thing that meant the law was broken? Martin Cahill comes to mind too. Is it a question of proximity to the court?

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

It pisses me off that some people can't separate their feelings towards a person and how that person is treated by the police or government.

You have to have the brain capacity of a wombat to look at that video of his breaching the peace arrest and then think "It's ok because he's a thug racist."

People who applaud it ensure it will continue happening, but who knows where your opinions will lie in the future. You might not always have the social moral highground protecting you.

While lads preach killing the infidels in public is allowed, it's laughable.

The right-on snobbery really gets to me. I laughed a few years ago at the Musliamic Ray-guns guy. I can admit I was wrong. It was a group of people who had no other way to do anything. The police failed them, the law failed them, their sisters, nieces, daughters were being raped, beaten and drugged and because they're working class sure they're just racist pieces of ****. It's ****ing disgusting that the snobbery against them is so strong while straightaway the same people will start talking about small minorities etc.

How the **** people can point at Tommy Robinson as being the problem when likely over 100,000 girls have been raped and just laugh at the unarticulate working class guys trying to draw attention and have something done about it.

thebull85

Diceicle wrote: »

Relative to the scale of the grooming gangs the BBC et al are pretty quiet about the whole thing.
It feels like the Telford scandal got barely any attention at all.

Must not offend the muslim...

Diceicle

Relative to the scale of the grooming gangs the BBC et al are pretty quiet about the whole thing.
It feels like the Telford scandal got barely any attention at all.

professore

VonZan wrote: »

I don't agree with anything Robinson says bar this issue and he's 100% correct to expose these people; the problem is that he is trying to tar everyone with the same brush and make this an issue about immigration.

Is he really though? He has gone on at length several times about his friends of all ethnic backgrounds, including Muslims. Seems a funny way to appeal to racists. I don't agree with him 100% either but I do think it's possible his heart is in the right place.

thebull85

Scumbag child rapists need to be indentified. End of f***ing story.

professore

Walter Bishop wrote: »

They knew kids were being raped and did nothing about it? And you know this how?

Reams of documentation online from all sources of how this was covered up and ignored for decades despite a flood of reports and warnings.from some of the girls, their families,. social workers and politicians. No one disputes this. They just ignore it.

Check out Maajid Nawaz, a British anti extremist Muslim. In the race to be seen as not racist, many, including the mainstream media are inadvertently or perhaps deliberately supporting the most extreme forms of Islam.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

malinheader

20Cent wrote: »

Its the kids identities being protected.

It's the kids I am talking about

20Cent

malinheader wrote: »

It's just a pity as much emphasis wasn't put in place to protect them from the scum bags as there was protecting their identities

Its the kids identities being protected.

20Cent

Raging_Ninja wrote: »

They told him he was being arrested for breach of the peace. Nothing about contempt of court.

Ya reckon people get sent away for over a year for breach or peace? He was on bail for contempt of court broke the rules and bail revoked.

malinheader

20Cent wrote: »

Crimes against children always have special restrictions so that the children's identities can be protected. No conspiracy here. He was warned already and ignored the warning.

It's just a pity as much emphasis wasn't put in place to protect them from the scum bags as there was protecting their identities

VonZan

20Cent wrote: »

Actually it was for contempt of court while on bail for contempt of court.

Imagine someone was outside filming people going into a trial and publishing it on the internet. Can't be allowed.

It happens all the time. The reason this is an issue is because the perpetrators cannot be named in order to protect the identity of the children involved. However, this is a cultural issue for some people.

Anyone supporting raptists should be deported. It must be a real quagmire for some people to either support child rapists or Robinson'd exposure of them.

I don't agree with anything Robinson says bar this issue and he's 100% correct to expose these people; the problem is that he is trying to tar everyone with the same brush and make this an issue about immigration.

Raging_Ninja

20Cent wrote: »

Actually it was for contempt of court while on bail for contempt of court.

Imagine someone was outside filming people going into a trial and publishing it on the internet. Can't be allowed.

They told him he was being arrested for breach of the peace. Nothing about contempt of court.

Tipsy McSwagger

20Cent wrote: »

Actually it was for contempt of court while on bail for contempt of court.

Imagine someone was outside filming people going into a trial and publishing it on the internet. Can't be allowed.

Like the media?

20Cent

fash wrote: »

He wasn't arrested for that though- he was arrested for breaching the peace. Unless there is more to the contemporaneous story that I am currently unaware of, that sounds like after the event justification if it was not used as the reason at the time.

Actually it was for contempt of court while on bail for contempt of court.

Imagine someone was outside filming people going into a trial and publishing it on the internet. Can't be allowed.

fash

20Cent wrote: »

Crimes against children always have special restrictions so that the children's identities can be protected. No conspiracy here. He was warned already and ignored the warning.

He wasn't arrested for that though- he was arrested for breaching the peace. Unless there is more to the contemporaneous story that I am currently unaware of, that sounds like after the event justification if it was not used as the reason at the time.

20Cent

Crimes against children always have special restrictions so that the children's identities can be protected. No conspiracy here. He was warned already and ignored the warning.

Diceicle

Arresting TR is not right, and the lack of media coverage at this hearing (relative to say, Count Dankulas day in court) and the overall lack of coverage of Telford etc is quite concerning and it's easy to see how someone could think there's special treatment going on.

Will I Am Not

fash wrote: »

Or "rape gangs" if you understand the original speaker's dialect on that one. No need to ridicule the concerns of a person regarding young girls in their community based on their accent.

You would think people would slink away from that comment. It’s actually quite disgusting to be still slagging it off knowing what transpired.

backspin.

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Who is Tommy Robinson?

He does a cookery show on BBC..

Go back to sleep Francie.

backspin.

Whatever you think of Tommy Robinson that the media have been banned from reporting/discussing his arrest should set alarm bells ringing in a 'free' society.

fash

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Jamiekelly wrote: »

Den14 wrote: »

The story of Tommy Robinson in the UK should strike fear into everyone regardless of whether you like the guy or not.
If you can be arrested, tried and sentenced for dissenting opinion in a matter of three hours, you don't have due process and you certainly don't have freedom. The press are also forbidden to report the story. The whole thing sounds like something out of 1984.

Very true. I used to hate the chap with an absolute passion until the grooming gangs were uncovered and everything he said about them turned out to be true. Also the fact that there were more investigations into him and the EDL than there were about the gangs just proved his point even further.

As Douglas Murray said about Tommy and I'm paraphrasing here

"I don't particularly agree with Mr. Robinson on many issues but the fact remains he has been vindicated by the horrific revelations that have come out and I for one, am bloody grateful that the man was willing to risk his safety and reputation to shout from the rooftops about this issue. It has also come to light that the police services were more than happy to arrest the fathers of rape victims who were on the verge of murdering their abusers after being told by the very same police officers that there was nothing to be done. They were denied the right to see their daughters abusers face due process for their crimes yet there was no hesitation in arresting them for their rage against those that very much deserved it.

I find it astonishing that the man to get due process for those victims was not a police officer of the court but, in the eyes of the left, a racist football hooligan. As a gay man I find the bending over backwards to islamofascists by liberals in this country to be an insidious traitorous ideology. While Tommy may have a spotty past and certain views which I find questionable, I highly doubt he would have me thrown off a rooftop for being gay unlike the same men his critics are so ardent to defend. If they got their way, I would be very much in danger simply for being alive and being who I am, while they proclaim to be the de-facto protectors of gay people in this country. It is a laughable state of affairs for the left in this country when they are ignoring the elephant in the room because a chihuahua dares to bark at it. They will spend more time attempting to muzzle and silence a tiny dog than to deal with a crisis rampaging toward them. They are experts at attacking the secondary problems but when it comes to the primary concerns or the source of the problem they are nowhere to be found or purposely silent. I wonder why that is...."

When I heard Murray say that about him I realised myself that maybe he wasn't the monster the media made him out to be and that I believed him to be. Did a little research into him with fresh open eyes and he turned out to be a typical blokey kind of guy who made lewd jokes and some very serious points on the way British society was moving. I highly suggest anyone who demonize him to look at his oxford union presentation and see what he actually means. If he can sway the liberal oxford crowd then maybe he's not the boogeyman the media would have you believe he is.

To a certain extent In agree with you, but he could do without they look the next Twitter Pakistani jokes and mortgage fraud.

Fully agree with that- as regards the mortgage fraud issue, I would note that while he certainly did it, what was rather disturbing for me is that it was quite clearly a case where the state investigated him in great detail to try to find anything they could to put him in jail and discredit him. While it was his own fault for having something that he could be jailed and discredited with, nevertheless the actions of the state were at best questionable and at worst evidence the same thing that happened at this event - I.e. a deliberate policy to destroy those it views as a dissenter. One wonders why they don't treat rape gangs in a similar fashion.

tritriagain

No fan boy of Tommy but I do think it's deeply worrying how quick the establishment are hell bent on silencing him while religious hate preachers , in particular Muslim ones , seem to get a free pass. And no one can deny that he was warning about these grooming gangs long before any action was taken against the perpetrators. Don't necessarily like his methods but sometimes the man on the street needs to be listened too. I am in no way a racist and have a greeting for everyone.i have no time for any religion but would defend anybodys right to practice. However I do find Islam very concerning and to be honest I have a young daughter and would be very very concerned if she came home in 10 years time and told me she was marrying a Muslim. This is not to say all Muslims are bad people but I do believe the religion they follow is extremely flawed in its moral teachings.

fash

super_furry wrote: »

Sounds like Tommy got hit by those muslamic ray-guns.

Or "rape gangs" if you understand the original speaker's dialect on that one. No need to ridicule the concerns of a person regarding young girls in their community based on their accent.

[Deleted User]

It pisses me off that some people can't separate their feelings towards a person and how that person is treated by the police or government.

You have to have the brain capacity of a wombat to look at that video of his breaching the peace arrest and then think "It's ok because he's a thug racist."

People who applaud it ensure it will continue happening, but who knows where your opinions will lie in the future. You might not always have the social moral highground protecting you.

somesoldiers

frag420 wrote: »

It seems that tart Tommy Robinson aint as cunning as our friend Baldrick...

As cunning as a fox that’s been made Professor of Cunning at Oxford University

& one for luck...
A war hasn’t been fought this badly since Olaf The Hairy, king of Vikings ordered 10,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Jamiekelly wrote: »

Den14 wrote: »

The story of Tommy Robinson in the UK should strike fear into everyone regardless of whether you like the guy or not.
If you can be arrested, tried and sentenced for dissenting opinion in a matter of three hours, you don't have due process and you certainly don't have freedom. The press are also forbidden to report the story. The whole thing sounds like something out of 1984.

Very true. I used to hate the chap with an absolute passion until the grooming gangs were uncovered and everything he said about them turned out to be true. Also the fact that there were more investigations into him and the EDL than there were about the gangs just proved his point even further.

As Douglas Murray said about Tommy and I'm paraphrasing here

"I don't particularly agree with Mr. Robinson on many issues but the fact remains he has been vindicated by the horrific revelations that have come out and I for one, am bloody grateful that the man was willing to risk his safety and reputation to shout from the rooftops about this issue. It has also come to light that the police services were more than happy to arrest the fathers of rape victims who were on the verge of murdering their abusers after being told by the very same police officers that there was nothing to be done. They were denied the right to see their daughters abusers face due process for their crimes yet there was no hesitation in arresting them for their rage against those that very much deserved it.

I find it astonishing that the man to get due process for those victims was not a police officer of the court but, in the eyes of the left, a racist football hooligan. As a gay man I find the bending over backwards to islamofascists by liberals in this country to be an insidious traitorous ideology. While Tommy may have a spotty past and certain views which I find questionable, I highly doubt he would have me thrown off a rooftop for being gay unlike the same men his critics are so ardent to defend. If they got their way, I would be very much in danger simply for being alive and being who I am, while they proclaim to be the de-facto protectors of gay people in this country. It is a laughable state of affairs for the left in this country when they are ignoring the elephant in the room because a chihuahua dares to bark at it. They will spend more time attempting to muzzle and silence a tiny dog than to deal with a crisis rampaging toward them. They are experts at attacking the secondary problems but when it comes to the primary concerns or the source of the problem they are nowhere to be found or purposely silent. I wonder why that is...."

When I heard Murray say that about him I realised myself that maybe he wasn't the monster the media made him out to be and that I believed him to be. Did a little research into him with fresh open eyes and he turned out to be a typical blokey kind of guy who made lewd jokes and some very serious points on the way British society was moving. I highly suggest anyone who demonize him to look at his oxford union presentation and see what he actually means. If he can sway the liberal oxford crowd then maybe he's not the boogeyman the media would have you believe he is.

To a certain extent In agree with you, but he could do without they look the next Twitter Pakistani jokes and mortgage fraud.

If a Muslim had the same rapsheet Tommy has, Tommy works be demanding his deportarion on the grounds of immorality.

Jamiekelly

Den14 wrote: »

The story of Tommy Robinson in the UK should strike fear into everyone regardless of whether you like the guy or not.
If you can be arrested, tried and sentenced for dissenting opinion in a matter of three hours, you don't have due process and you certainly don't have freedom. The press are also forbidden to report the story. The whole thing sounds like something out of 1984.

Very true. I used to hate the chap with an absolute passion until the grooming gangs were uncovered and everything he said about them turned out to be true. Also the fact that there were more investigations into him and the EDL than there were about the gangs just proved his point even further.

As Douglas Murray said about Tommy and I'm paraphrasing here

"I don't particularly agree with Mr. Robinson on many issues but the fact remains he has been vindicated by the horrific revelations that have come out and I for one, am bloody grateful that the man was willing to risk his safety and reputation to shout from the rooftops about this issue. It has also come to light that the police services were more than happy to arrest the fathers of rape victims who were on the verge of murdering their abusers after being told by the very same police officers that there was nothing to be done. They were denied the right to see their daughters abusers face due process for their crimes yet there was no hesitation in arresting them for their rage against those that very much deserved it.

I find it astonishing that the man to get due process for those victims was not a police officer of the court but, in the eyes of the left, a racist football hooligan. As a gay man I find the bending over backwards to islamofascists by liberals in this country to be an insidious traitorous ideology. While Tommy may have a spotty past and certain views which I find questionable, I highly doubt he would have me thrown off a rooftop for being gay unlike the same men his critics are so ardent to defend. If they got their way, I would be very much in danger simply for being alive and being who I am, while they proclaim to be the de-facto protectors of gay people in this country. It is a laughable state of affairs for the left in this country when they are ignoring the elephant in the room because a chihuahua dares to bark at it. They will spend more time attempting to muzzle and silence a tiny dog than to deal with a crisis rampaging toward them. They are experts at attacking the secondary problems but when it comes to the primary concerns or the source of the problem they are nowhere to be found or purposely silent. I wonder why that is...."

When I heard Murray say that about him I realised myself that maybe he wasn't the monster the media made him out to be and that I believed him to be. Did a little research into him with fresh open eyes and he turned out to be a typical blokey kind of guy who made lewd jokes and some very serious points on the way British society was moving. I highly suggest anyone who demonize him to look at his oxford union presentation and see what he actually means. If he can sway the liberal oxford crowd then maybe he's not the boogeyman the media would have you believe he is.

Den14

The story of Tommy Robinson in the UK should strike fear into everyone regardless of whether you like the guy or not.
If you can be arrested, tried and sentenced for dissenting opinion in a matter of three hours, you don't have due process and you certainly don't have freedom. The press are also forbidden to report the story. The whole thing sounds like something out of 1984.

Yer Da sells Avon

An Claidheamh wrote: »

"I just saw a someone planting a time bomb, or as a Muslim woman calls it, having a baby".

https://resistinghate.org/tommy-robinson-and-his-hate-tweets/

I mean what a rebel against the establishment is Tommy.

And I hear it's OK not to think he's BNP, EDL, pond scum...... sure isn't his mother Irish.

What's racist about that? How's that racist? Islam isn't a race, it's a religion and Islamophobia is just a made-up word, like all the other words. How are the BNP racist? Are the EDL suddenly racist now? Are these my feet?

Can someone tell me, how is this racist?

Nothing is ever racist.