knucklehead6 wrote: » Fair point. It’s widely assumed that it’s at least two. But I’d prefer if they were over 18. There’s a part of me thinks they will get treated a bit easier cos they’re kids. And their families will have to leave the area
Putinbot wrote: » Anyone else pissed off with the thread title. The word tragic to me implies an accident of some sort.
Astrid Sweet Gong wrote: Don't be surprised to hear that's it's more than 2 and it wasn't planned. My own feeling is that whatever happened it wasn't planned but something of a lesser degree that got terribly out of control.
cagefactor wrote: If it is one boy, what sort of young psychopath scumbag are we dealing with - didn't break down and show any remorse when questioned. From reports it sounds like there is a huge amount of DNA. I hope he/they will be in the Joy for the rest of their days which unfortunately in this country won't be that many years.
Amalgam wrote: » Sadly, people who do commit awful crimes early in their life, do 'recover' and continue their life as an adult.
chicorytip wrote: » This is all entirely speculative in the worst tabloid journalistic sense. The identity of the murderer/s is, as of now, unknown, probably even to the investigating gardai.
Seth Brundle wrote: » Sadly? You think it's a bad thing that they turn away from the dark side so to speak?
washman3 wrote: » That's quite possible. Or maybe those in the 'higher echelons of power' have decided to drag it out as long as possible so that public anger will be virtually extinguished. After all, this is definitely Ireland's closest ever case to the Jamie Bulger case in UK.
Caledonia wrote: » Is the general feeling that it is just one boy who will be charged with the actual murder?
Electric Sheep wrote: » It may be one boy charged with the actual murder, but I would not be at all surprised if the attack was instigated by girls. They/she might not have been present for the act itself, but stirred the pot and set the boys up to do it.
F1fan wrote: » Am lying here in bed not able to sleep, feeling very heavy hearted about this poor child and her family, and Jastine and her family. I have a fourteen year old daughter,and two younger boys, and feel so sad when I think of what Ana’s parents and siblings are going through. I am also sad about how we all react to things - I know online is not a ‘real’ environment, but it is not just online. News, radio shows etc. I am sick of listening to the bickering and the hatred and the theories and the excuses. There’s no point in wringing hands and lamenting modern life. Cruelty and violence always existed. Of course people are going to be angry - I am angry about the scum who killed these two women, I am angry watching that Mullins eegit earlier on Tv, I am angry that there is so much CRAP everyday to wade through. Mostly though I am angry and sad that kindness seems to be disappearing.Bullying, abuse, violence are common, but can we all just try being f@&king nicer to each other? Basic decency and kindness would make a difference. (Obv. Not saying this horrific incident was due to people not being ‘nice’, I think they are scum. Just wish Ana hadn’t had to know bullying and sadness while she was alive.)
F1fan wrote: » Mostly though I am angry and sad that kindness seems to be disappearing.
rusty cole wrote: » Kids have always been little swines, we all were
Snake Plisken wrote: » I thought that school had a good name, students from Lucan get bused there everyday. Sounds like a bully culture exists there and the Principle hasn’t stamped it out so they should be questioned about their lack of action.
Heres Johnny wrote: » Why children kill, never shown love or affection, and now we have some people saying it's the schools fault. It's not, it's the children's. I don't care about upbringing or environment, they have to be very harshly punished. So does anyone that knew about this and didn't stop it or report it, including fellow classmates and family members, if they did that is.
threetrees wrote: » Students get bussed to Confey from Lucan because they fall outside the catchment area for the already oversubscribed Lucan schools. It is nothing to do with reputation.
corner of hells wrote: » threetrees wrote: » Students get bussed to Confey from Lucan because they fall outside the catchment area for the already oversubscribed Lucan schools. It is nothing to do with reputation. If anything , kids were bussed from Leixlip to Lucan .
TomOnBoard wrote: » I hear ya. And I agree with 98% of what you wrote. At times like this, any person who feels empathy towards the range of victims in these 2 awful attacks and killings will suffer. And it can get you down. All this can add to the other non-stop pressure and noise of just getting on with life while we're being assaulted by external crap from the news, mortgages, Trump, Korea, 8th Amendment vitriol, and a thousand other things. But you know what? Sometimes we simply care and give too much, more than we are capable of giving. Yes, we absolutely should all be "f@&king nicer to each other". But first, we should be "f@&king nicer to" ourselves! And what I mean by that is to pull our own horns in... Stop receiving... Don't watch the news for a month.. Go out for a walk instead.. Log out from the bad, pressure inducing social media... Put down the phone... Turn on message minder and switch the phone on twice a day for a hour each time to return calls... Read a book...Most important, buy 2 Board Games and set aside one night every week where ye all play the board game for a couple of hours and have a bit of fun together.. If we all did more of that we would all be better able to deal with the stuff. And then we might be better able to try to be "f@&king nicer to each other"!
RacoonQueen wrote: » Kindness isn't disappearing. Women living in Ireland are no less safe today than they were two weeks ago. Nice people who do nice, selfless things for people are all around us. Real men, real men are great. I've said this so much over the last few months between the Belfast trial and and now these two murders. We have so many more real men around us than we do misogynistic, entitled assholes. We have more men around us that would jump to protect us from scum like Hennessy and like whoever it was that murder Ana. Women too, who would have jumped in and helped either of them had they had the chance. Real kindness is all around us, we just don't see it or notice it as much because it's such a normal part of everyday life. Kindness is the person who is pulling of their parking spot as you pull in and hands you their parking ticket. Kindness is all the volunteers who help out for charities. Kindness is the colleague who shouts you your morning/afternoon coffee. Kindness is the colleague who randomly brings a few cakes back for your team from the shop. Kindness is the many, many people who cook up food, collect clothing and stand in the cold for hours during winter nights to help feed, clothe and give comfort to the homeless. Kindness is the people who runs to help pick you up when you trip over the footpath, take a spill on your bike etc Kindness is the friend who opts for meeting up at a time that doesn't suit at all but they know it suits you in your hectic life Kindness is all the people offering help on #hometovote on twitter (on both sides) read that hashtag and see if you can avoid welling up. Could go on... There are so, so many random acts of kindness going on every second of every day. So much more than than sh*t like this. We don't see it and don't appreciate it because we expect people to be nice.
tayto lover wrote: » Electric Sheep wrote: » It may be one boy charged with the actual murder, but I would not be at all surprised if the attack was instigated by girls. They/she might not have been present for the act itself, but stirred the pot and set the boys up to do it. That's my belief too.
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