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GLAS thread

Muckit

There may be some interest in setting this up to help with any GLAS related items.

My questions (although not exclusively glas related) are as follows:

I have LIPP and l am trying to work out in real terms what chemical N l am allowed to put out.

So far l've converted the 40kg/ha limit to kg/acre which works put @ 16.19kg/acre.

Now take say a 50kg bag of CAN. That's 27%N so am l right in saying this works out @ 13.5kg? So really a bag of CAN is all that is allowed/annum?

Or if spreading typical compound like 18-6-12 that 1.5bags/acre can be comfortably spread?

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kk.man

KatyMac wrote: »

Green farmer wrote: »

id be embarrassed letting anyone inside my gate atm. Nettles and thistles everywhere. Going to have to put a weedlicker to top of list of toys to buy.

Same here - fields in LIPP are in a horrible state, have a young lad coming next week with a weedlicker and I can't wait! The minute I'm out of the GLAS contract every inch of my farm is going to be sprayed. Farming by calendar dates is a cod. If you don't get topped by mid March you have to spend the next 4 months watching the rushes waving at you - hate it:(. Was looking yesterday at trees that I planted while in REPS and they are a whole lot more use to than letting weeds/rushes take over.
I'm in a KT group and keep dodging the 'farm visit' as Green farmer says 'it would be worse than embarrasing'

+1...my fields are the same

KatyMac

Green farmer wrote: »

id be embarrassed letting anyone inside my gate atm. Nettles and thistles everywhere. Going to have to put a weedlicker to top of list of toys to buy.

Same here - fields in LIPP are in a horrible state, have a young lad coming next week with a weedlicker and I can't wait! The minute I'm out of the GLAS contract every inch of my farm is going to be sprayed. Farming by calendar dates is a cod. If you don't get topped by mid March you have to spend the next 4 months watching the rushes waving at you - hate it:(. Was looking yesterday at trees that I planted while in REPS and they are a whole lot more use to than letting weeds/rushes take over.
I'm in a KT group and keep dodging the 'farm visit' as Green farmer says 'it would be worse than embarrasing'

Comic Book Guy

Aravo wrote: »

Can traditional hay meadow be reseeded after the crop is taken? No doubt there is a rule on this.

Tradiational is the key word. They are looking for old traditional type grasses and associated non grass species instead of perennial Rye grass swards so reseeding is a no no until your contract is finished.

Aravo

Can traditional hay meadow be reseeded after the crop is taken? No doubt there is a rule on this.

Base price

To enhance the biodiversity of our WBC I bought 2kgs of Phacelia seed. I was going to add it to the linseed and broadcast with the wagtail at the same time to an area of WBC. Oats will also be planted.

Any suggestions/recommendations about sowing it would be welcome.

jd06

Water John wrote:

Been a few threads on here on this, here's one;

jd06 wrote:

Any ideas of prices or the best model of weedlicker to use, I'm in the market myself

Also wondering and this could be a silly question, but if the licker licks thistles will the wheels coming behind not pick up the spray especially if it was roundup ?

Birdnuts

blue5000 wrote: »

Docks love a high N regime, take the foot off the pedal and there should be less after 5 years. I did soil tests this year after using no P in reps for 6 years, everything was index 3 or 4, couldn't believe it. K was a different story though, index 1 and 2 but we have a lot of sandy soil where K leaches out anyway.

The weeds are what the LIPP is all about, what type are they?

Your right that Docks love high N levels - ironically that is why they are such a pest in heavy silage covers that receive heavy inputs of slurry and chemical fert. Natural grasslands on the other hand(sadly very few left which reflects pretty poorly on agri-environment schemes in this country) have very few docks but a big variety of usefull herbal plants that not only are great for bees and other wildlife but also add a variety of essential elements to the diet of cattle etc. Many also give natural immunity to stock from worms and other parasites.

Water John

Been a few threads on here on this, here's one;
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=101105645

jd06

Green farmer wrote:

id be embarrassed letting anyone inside my gate atm. Nettles and thistles everywhere. Going to have to put a weedlicker to top of list of toys to buy.

Any ideas of prices or the best model of weedlicker to use, I'm in the market myself

sea12

Green farmer wrote: »

id be embarrassed letting anyone inside my gate atm. Nettles and thistles everywhere. Going to have to put a weedlicker to top of list of toys to buy.

Yea I'm the same. It's horrible to look at the thistles and nettles and the sprayer sitting in the shed.

Green farmer

id be embarrassed letting anyone inside my gate atm. Nettles and thistles everywhere. Going to have to put a weedlicker to top of list of toys to buy.

ganmo

kk.man wrote: »

In GLAS here and money is welcome. I am Low Input Pasture but I have weeds and docks like never before. It will cost a fortune on sprays and possible reseeding when the scheme ends.
One would have to question it's viability when the fields are full of weeds and probably going down the p and k scales. What are other people doing to control the weeds?

Knapsack!

kk.man

blue5000 wrote: »

kk.man wrote: »

In GLAS here and money is welcome. I am Low Input Pasture but I have weeds and docks like never before. It will cost a fortune on sprays and possible reseeding when the scheme ends.
One would have to question it's viability when the fields are full of weeds and probably going down the p and k scales. What are other people doing to control the weeds?

Docks love a high N regime, take the foot off the pedal and there should be less after 5 years. I did soil tests this year after using no P in reps for 6 years, everything was index 3 or 4, couldn't believe it. K was a different story though, index 1 and 2 but we have a lot of sandy soil where K leaches out anyway.

The weeds are what the LIPP is all about, what type are they?

I'll post a photo later.

blue5000

kk.man wrote: »

In GLAS here and money is welcome. I am Low Input Pasture but I have weeds and docks like never before. It will cost a fortune on sprays and possible reseeding when the scheme ends.
One would have to question it's viability when the fields are full of weeds and probably going down the p and k scales. What are other people doing to control the weeds?

Docks love a high N regime, take the foot off the pedal and there should be less after 5 years. I did soil tests this year after using no P in reps for 6 years, everything was index 3 or 4, couldn't believe it. K was a different story though, index 1 and 2 but we have a lot of sandy soil where K leaches out anyway.

The weeds are what the LIPP is all about, what type are they?

kk.man

In GLAS here and money is welcome. I am Low Input Pasture but I have weeds and docks like never before. It will cost a fortune on sprays and possible reseeding when the scheme ends.
One would have to question it's viability when the fields are full of weeds and probably going down the p and k scales. What are other people doing to control the weeds?

Base price

lab man wrote: »

How much was paid today lads

15% balancing payment so it depends if you have up to the max payment/actions in GLAS (€5,000) and if so payment is €750.03. I presume that GLAS+ participants would get more.

lab man

How much was paid today lads

Base price

sea12 wrote: »

Planting of Wild bird cover date extended to mid June

Yep, extended to the 16th of June.

sea12

Planting of Wild bird cover date extended to mid June

mayota

‘ping’

keepalive213

Neddyusa wrote: »

There is also a few still waiting on the 85% payment for last year - anyone on here not get it yet?

Waiting since nov/ dec still nothing. Keep saying its an IT problem.

Base price

Neddyusa wrote: »

Not sure where you saw this being ahead of schedule!??

This 15% 2017 payment was due to farmers last March, but like everything else with GLAS - the department missed their own deadline.

There is also a few still waiting on the 85% payment for last year - anyone on here not get it yet?

http://glasfarmplanners.ie/key-scheme-payment-dates-farmers-should-know-about-in-2017/

Neddyusa

Base price wrote: »

Good news - our 15% balance payment is going to be issued tomorrow which is months ahead of the schedule
http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/glas-balancing-payments-to-begin-issuing-this-week/

Not sure where you saw this being ahead of schedule!??

This 15% 2017 payment was due to farmers last March, but like everything else with GLAS - the department missed their own deadline.

There is also a few still waiting on the 85% payment for last year - anyone on here not get it yet?

Qprmeath

High bike wrote: »

yep it’s in amounts due today:D

No sign of mine

Base price

High bike wrote: »

yep it’s in amounts due today:D

Excellent. TBH I never thought of it again until I saw your post. I've been busy in the last couple of days helping my Sister sorting through Mam's clothes/personal effects.
In fairness to DAFM they got the finger out when needed and imo have partially redeemed their atrocious reputation regarding previous delays with GLAS payments.

High bike

Base price wrote: »

Good news - our 15% balance payment is going to be issued tomorrow which is months ahead of the schedule
http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/glas-balancing-payments-to-begin-issuing-this-week/

yep it’s in amounts due today:D

Danzy

Left the cattle on to the wbc barley/linseed patch mid April. It was great to have some of them out of the rising slurry and fast disappearing bales.

Payback today, tractor bogged down, sprayer in the field and stuff out with knapsack.

Few more hours tomorrow.

Wonder will they stretch sowingvdate.

Some places won't take a tractor unless we have two good weeks

Base price

Good news - our 15% balance payment is going to be issued tomorrow which is months ahead of the schedule

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/glas-balancing-payments-to-begin-issuing-this-week/

Base price

Muckit wrote: »

Your guess is as good as mine. Everything was ticked off as 100%compliant first time. I don't have WBC and perhaps this is reason as they don't want to inspect these after the winter/spring we had? Hard to know.

A friend of ours had a second inspection last week. The inspector looked at the WBC even though it had been grazed off, fencing along a river and something else that I cannot remember.

kk.man

Muckit wrote: »

TPF2012 wrote: »

Just wondering any reason for the 2nd inspection? No inspections here yet, thought they were only doing 5% of farms a year.

Your guess is as good as mine. Everything was ticked off as 100%compliant first time. I don't have WBC and perhaps this is reason as they don't want to inspect these after the winter/spring we had? Hard to know.

Probably inspecting the inspector.