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Rubecula

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/techandscience/the-largest-thing-in-the-universe-cosmic-collision-12bn-years-ago-created-mega-galaxy/ar-AAwlpr5?ocid=spartandhp

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Fathom

Cosmic collision 12 billion years ago. Created mega-galaxy? Any relationship to Big Bang?

Rubecula

as far as I can find out it is not directly related to the big bang. It as also thought to be a lot larger now as more galaxies are thought to have joined the growing mass.

[Deleted User]

Should Big Bang be reconsidered or revised or not be associated? Butterfly effect?

Rubecula

Black Swan wrote: »

Should Big Bang be reconsidered or revised or not be associated? Butterfly effect?

I think it depends on your personal point of view Swannie'

Fathom

Black Swan wrote: »

Butterfly effect?

Everything's affected?

[Deleted User]

Stephen Hawking's (and Thomas Hertog) last paper published before his death suggested the existence of parallel universes related to the Big Bang.

Ref:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/stephen-hawking-is-still-publishing-new-mind-bending-theories-about-space_us_5ae9d963e4b06748dc8eab21
https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/JHEP04(2018)147.pdf

Rubecula

I had heard about that too Swannie thanks for reminding me.

Fathom

Makes note. Read Hawking & Hertog.

[Deleted User]

I like the position made elsewhere by another that in each era we though we had it right, while considering all those eras before as wrong. Makes me wonder what the future era will consider ours in light of theirs? Rubbish or a foundation to evolve from?

Rubecula

I try to keep an open mind at all times (Try) you never know what the idea will be.

Fathom

Rubecula wrote: »

I try to keep an open mind at all times (Try) you never know what the idea will be.

Cool. Corresponds with research method. Research suggests. Does not prove. Always "open mind" for contrary evidence.

Rubecula

I often disagree with top scientists (even Steven Hawking) but usually it is me that is wrong. Maybe I should stop doubting but I can't help myself.

Fathom

Rubecula wrote: »

I often disagree with top scientists (even Steven Hawking) but usually it is me that is wrong. Maybe I should stop doubting but I can't help myself.

When taking research methods classes. Always told to proceed with caution. Accept nothing on faith.

Rubecula

Fathom wrote: »

When taking research methods classes. Always told to proceed with caution. Accept nothing on faith.

Yes, that is me right enough.

Capt'n Midnight

Rubecula wrote: »

I often disagree with top scientists (even Steven Hawking) but usually it is me that is wrong. Maybe I should stop doubting but I can't help myself.

See Clarkes first law

Clarke's three laws
1 When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

2 The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

3 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

- Arthur C. Clarke

Rubecula

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

See Clarkes first law

Clarke's three laws
1 When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

2 The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

3 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

- Arthur C. Clarke

thank you Captain

Fathom

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

2 The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." Arthur Conan Doyle's methodology of Sherlock Holmes.

Capt'n Midnight

Vetinari: Apprentices? But I can see to it that the finest craftsmen —
Leonard da Quirm: Not craftsmen, my lord. I have no use for people who have learned the limits of the possible.
— The Last Hero , Terry Prachett

Rubecula

Fathom wrote: »

"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." Arthur Conan Doyle's methodology of Sherlock Holmes.

one of my favourite authors

Rubecula

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Vetinari: Apprentices? But I can see to it that the finest craftsmen —
Leonard da Quirm: Not craftsmen, my lord. I have no use for people who have learned the limits of the possible.
— The Last Hero , Terry Prachett

and another of my favourites

Fathom

Rubecula wrote: »

one of my favourite authors

Finishing complete Sherlock Holmes works. Fast read. Historical take on deductive and intuitive methods applied to crime.

Capt'n Midnight

Fathom wrote: »

Makes note. Read Hawking & Hertog.

way off topic. Watch Kinski and Herzog.

Anyway
Can't wait until some more of the Gaia data has been explained , because info on our galaxy can be used to explain others.
https://www.cosmos.esa.int/web/gaia/home

Always found it odd that so may galaxies including our own have a super massive black hole or two at the centre with roughly a 1 : 700 ratio to the mass of their galaxies.

Fathom

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

way off topic. Watch Kinski and Herzog.

Notes. Thanks!

Rubecula

Fathom wrote: »

Finishing complete Sherlock Holmes works. Fast read. Historical take on deductive and intuitive methods applied to crime.

just like a yellow door "it is a lemon entry my dear, what's on?"

Fathom

Rubecula wrote: »

just like a yellow door "it is a lemon entry my dear, what's on?"

It's elementary.

Rubecula

eat up it's alimentary

Fathom

Rubecula wrote: »

I often disagree with top scientists (even Steven Hawking) but usually it is me that is wrong. Maybe I should stop doubting but I can't help myself.

Karl Popper. Philosophy of science. Falsification. Cool POV Rubecula.

Rubecula

Fathom wrote: »

Karl Popper. Philosophy of science. Falsification. Cool POV Rubecula.

:cool: thank you Fathom one of the nicest comments I have received on my scientific thoughts.:)

Fathom

Rubecula wrote: »

:cool: thank you Fathom one of the nicest comments I have received on my scientific thoughts.:)

Proceeding with caution is a scientific value.

Rubecula

oh I am all for pushing ahead, but sometimes I see the direction differently eg they see things mathematically, I never have done. I like maths but in fact I see things in a picture form so I often find it hard to explain my thoughts.