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Man with 90 previous convictions defended by family on Facebook

Ineedaname

http://connachttribune.ie/mugger-jailed-for-pizza-knife-attack-on-couple-at-spanish-arch-009/

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1770673026322265&id=148746965181554

Frank McDonagh from Rahoon, Galway was jailed for 8 years with 18 months suspended after he slashed two people in the head with a pizza knife during an attempted robbery. He had 90 previous convictions and yet his family defend him on Facebook and insist he just made a mistake.

Fair play to the fella who intervened. Could've been a lot worse if he hadn't.

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M.T. Cranium

gazzer wrote: »

I learnt a new word from those Facebook comments

Megan McDonagh Ive nothing against settled ppl some of my friends are actually buffers

BUFFER. I presume it is slang for a settled person

Nope, some of her friends perform the useful service of stopping trains from going off the rails, too bad they weren't there for her lot. :pac:

ballsymchugh

I have to say, i'm disappointed she spelled 'angels' correctly. was fully expecting to see 'angles'

Samuel T. Cogley

Mutant z wrote: »

Why is not paying a TV licence taken more seriously than someone slashing someone else's throat in this country is there any proper justice at all.

Fcuk we forgot garlic man.

Mutant z

Why is not paying a TV licence taken more seriously than someone slashing someone else's throat in this country is there any proper justice at all.

Samuel T. Cogley

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

No. All that attempted murder is engaging in an attack that’s likely to kill, that a reasonable person would assume could kill. Intent to kill.

I don’t think this was attempted murder, though.

The intent is to kill or seriously harm, given the sentences this amounted to serious harm. That said S4. Causing Serious Harm carries up to a life sentence anyway.

Ineedaname

ellejay wrote: »

Less Again!

I think every year is actually only 9 months as they get three months off for good behaviour.
Maybe that's with "life" sentencing though

Remission is 25%. 25% of 6.5 is 1.6 years off his sentence. That's only a minimum though so realistically he'll probably be out in even less.

ellejay

Ineedaname wrote: »

You forgot to account for remission so he'll probably be out in 5.

Less Again!

I think every year is actually only 9 months as they get three months off for good behaviour.
Maybe that's with "life" sentencing though

Mutant z

Absolute scum both this man and those who are defending him why we don't impose life sentences in this country i will never know because this guy sure as hell deserves it.

Ineedaname

valoren wrote: »

My understanding is that he is sentenced for 8 years with 18 months suspended, so he'll be out in 6.5 years time but on probation to serve the suspended part. If he goes slashing peoples faces and necks during that period, he'll be in prison again but for a longer time.

You forgot to account for remission so he'll probably be out in 5.

[Deleted User]

The mindset where knifing two innocent people in public was just a 'mistake' says it all really. Thankfully someone called them up on that...

Relation: Do you not know the meaning of a mistake? We've all made them some worse than others...

Reply: He couldn't learn from his 90 previous mistakes no?

AlekSmart

the_syco wrote: »

The scrote has 90 previous convictions, so why suspend any of the sentence? Also, concurrent sentences? Why even bother? It's essentially giving him 8 years that he'll never have to do!

It is also an interesting point that Judge McCabe appears to differentiate between the sexes in his sentencing.

The Judge sentenced McDonagh to eight years in prison for the serious assault on the man, and suspended the final 18 months.

He imposed a concurrent four-year sentence for the assault on the woman and a further concurrent four-year sentence for the possession of the knife.

Given that the Irish State's behaviour towards Women has now been proven, in so many ways to be seriously wanting,it should surely be required that Judge McCabe justify,or otherwise explain,the four year difference for the same attack.

A more realistic sentence would have been 8 years on both counts,to run Consecutively,with the 4 years for possession,to be suspended from the date of release.

This savage attack,definitely merited a 16 year tarriff,with the only suspension being made available on the lesser charge.

Sadly,far too many Judges are looking worriedly over their shoulders,at the Court of Appeal and Supreme Court,when deciding upon sentences,when they should be considering only ONE point-The severity of the Crime.

Franz Von Peppercorn

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I imagine going out with the express intention to murder someone is attempted murder. Mens rea comes into account with serious crimes.

No. All that attempted murder is engaging in an attack that’s likely to kill, that a reasonable person would assume could kill. Intent to kill.

I don’t think this was attempted murder, though.

scopper

I'm sorry but this reads more like attempted murder to me, jesus.

gazzer

I learnt a new work from those Facebook comments

Megan McDonagh Ive nothing against settled ppl some of my friends are actually buffers

BUFFER. I presume it is slang for a settled person

GarIT

This is exactly why I think we need a gauranteed minimum one month sentence per previous conviction at every conviction. If you get your second conviction you must spend at least one month in prison, when you get your 21st conviction you must spend at least 20 months in prison. You could never possibly get past 30 convictions then in a human lifetime.

He has 90 convictions so far and he is still young, so far his average sentence has been less than one month per conviction.

Concurrent sentences should be completely outlawed. If you stab one person you might as well stab 5, it's the same punishment at the moment.

wexie

valoren wrote: »

If he goes slashing peoples faces and necks during that period, he'll be in prison again but for a longer time.

But surely it's not 'just' slashing faces and necks?

ie. lesser crimes should be able to put him back in the klink while on probation as well no?

the_syco

The judge sentenced McDonagh to eight years in prison for the serious assault on the man, and suspended the final 18 months.

He imposed a concurrent four-year sentence for the assault on the woman and a further concurrent four-year sentence for the possession of the knife.

The scrote has 90 previous convictions, so why suspend any of the sentence? Also, concurrent sentences? Why even bother? It's essentially giving him 8 years that he'll never have to do!

valoren

wexie wrote: »

Does the suspended bit of a sentence actually ever get triggered though?

Sure doesn't seem like it

Or do the suspended bits just get served concurrent with whatever the next sentence is?

My understanding is that he is sentenced for 8 years with 18 months suspended, so he'll be out in 6.5 years time but on probation to serve the suspended part. If he goes slashing peoples faces and necks during that period, he'll be in prison again but for a longer time.

Ulysses Gaze

Countdown to when the usual suspects will arrive on this thread to defend certain "ethnic" minorities whose vast majority don't know how to conduct themselves within civilized society.

Yes, the Right On cavalry will descend soon. But if you ask them the question as to whether or not they'd live next door to a halting site themselves....

wexie

valoren wrote: »

What the point of a suspended sentence? Isn't it to see if someone re-offends for a particular crime they get a bigger sentence again?

So when he is released the 18 months he will be serving the sentence he'll be grand so long as he doesn't attack using a weapon I presume. How else in the name of logic and common sense to explain how someone accrue 90 convictions.

Does the suspended bit of a sentence actually ever get triggered though?

Sure doesn't seem like it

Or do the suspended bits just get served concurrent with whatever the next sentence is?

valoren

What the point of a suspended sentence? Isn't it to see if someone re-offends for a particular crime they get a bigger sentence again?

So when he is released the 18 months he will be serving for the suspended sentence he'll be grand so long as he doesn't attack using a weapon I presume. He could still do that but unless he's caught he can continue to be a scumbag. How else in the name of logic and common sense to explain how someone accrue 90 convictions.

topper75

diomed wrote: »

Do you think he will reoffend?

Past performance is not a guaranteed indicator of future returns.

But that said, yeah, I'd not hesitate to take out a QuickCash payday loan for as much as they'll sign for and go down to Paddy Powers with it.

Samuel T. Cogley

diomed wrote: »

Do you think he will reoffend?

Does a traveller **** on their own door step bear **** in the woods?

punisher5112

Let's embrace all they are God's children and some are misunderstood something something horse burgers.....

That's shocking, what an attack.

Scum will be scum.

AllForIt

Anyone know why there is no picture/mug shot of him?

Cuddlesworth

Maybe a little less focusing on the face he is a traveller and more asking why a man with 90+ convictions, who was out on bail, who thinks nothing of stabbing people for chump change will be back walking the streets of Galway within 3 years.

There comes a point where individuals should no longer be let back into society. And there are lots of examples of them in the news every week.

TerrorFirmer

I'm actually mildly upset reading the comments. It beggars belief that these people actually exist in our society - not just the actual scumbag in question who assaulted and almost killed those people, but his lowlife family members acting as if it was just a minor first offense for speeding.

This was the real eye opener as to the mindset of these people.

And I'm sure all commenting on this are perfect never been n court n their life's

rondog

I absolutely despise travelers.I know this will offend the lefties and PC brigade but I have never heard anything positive come from them.Every timei hear a story regarding a traveler its got to do with a claim that they get tens of thousands for,a claim for hundreds of thousands they are seeking for having to move site where they don't even own a house.They are opportunists and contribute nothing to society except crime and misery.They want everything for free and then some.They wont work,wont integrate and use the old excuse that its their culture.
The law needs to toughen up against scum like this fella and any other type of seasoned criminal with 90 conviction cos its obvious they have no intention of EVER assimilating to society and will just harm people given half the chance.If that was my daughter he slashed I would make it my lifes work to cut him up when he gets free.Im not a violent person but that act is below a savage.

AllForIt

A passerby saw what was happening and tackled McDonagh to the ground. He disarmed him and threw the knife into the river to stop any further assault taking place. He managed to restrain McDonagh on the ground until Gardai arrived at the scene.

Hero, whoever you are!

techdiver

rawn wrote: »

Fb link doesn't work?

You're probably better off.