K.G. wrote: » Might have said already but whose brain wave was it to put 10year olds in u 14 setup.we have 12 year olds that cant compete with 14 year olds.the more i think about this setup the less i think we know
nice_guy80 wrote: » That was the parents decision
Seth Brundle wrote: » Why did they feel the need to make that decision?
runawaybishop wrote: » Because the under 12 coach was swearing at their kids and wouldn't stop.
Seth Brundle wrote: » Yes. So nice_guy80's post which implied that the parents were at fault is misleading as they were effectively bullied out of their age group and into the next available one.
nice_guy80 wrote: » The kids probably hear far worse at home, at school or on the tv Oh, blame the sports coach
PARlance wrote: » Two wrongs don't make a right. The parents were irresponsible for throwing their kids into a higher age group imo, they used the kids as cannon fodder. The Club acted very poorly in this and rightly came out of it worse but I can see fault with both sides.
runawaybishop wrote: » They are 10 year old kids, they should not be sworn at. Who else would you blame except the coach who was swearing at them?
runawaybishop wrote: » They didn't want them playing with the u12 coach and the club refused to do anything about him, what choice did they have if the kids wanted to play?
PARlance wrote: » You blame the coach. You also blame the parents for throwing them into an u14 team. Fault doesn't have to lie on one side alone.
PARlance wrote: » Playing u14 was hardly the only choice was it.
runawaybishop wrote: » They were put on the u14 team because of the u12 coach swearing at them. There is absolutely no blame to be attached to the parents - the kids being on the u14 team wasnt an issue in the slightest. Not playing was the other choice.
nice_guy80 wrote: » Where did i say it was the parents fault?
nice_guy80 wrote: » K.G. wrote: » Might have said already but whose brain wave was it to put 10year olds in u 14 setup.we have 12 year olds that cant compete with 14 year olds.the more i think about this setup the less i think we know That was the parents decision
Billgirlylegs wrote: » from the article "The month is February, 2017. Two 10-year-old boys — upset by the language and atmosphere on the team — decide they would rather play for the under 14s. There are some training sessions with a new coach, Eddie Brady, and they are invited to join the older boys for a game in Loughrea. That's when the meltdown begins." The club were suspended by their governing body as a direct consequence of the actions of their officials in response to a sequence of events that commenced in 2016. The "blame" (all of it) lies with the club. Utterly and completely. It isn't complicated.
PARlance wrote: » Two 10 year old boys just decide to head up to u14's... Absolutely. Even if that was the case. And these 2 lads decided that u14 was the way to go then I would still put blame on the parents for letting them do it.
runawaybishop wrote: » What has them playing for u14 got to do with anything?
danganabu wrote: » Well the argument that was made was that the foul language of a trainer was having this massive negative affect on the two 10 year olds and was inappropriate, which of course it was, but how is the appropriate solution to move them up to U14 where they are in actual physical danger? Athenry's U12 were being roundly beaten in most of their matches the U14's were winning all their games and were favourites to win the county final, anyone that is naieve enough to think that this was simply about the foul language of one coach is well wide of the mark.
runawaybishop wrote: » It was about the clubs inability to deal with reported incidents.
danganabu wrote: » but the parents are far from blameless and innocent as has been suggested.
runawaybishop wrote: What has them playing for u14 got to do with anything?
runawaybishop wrote: » Huh? How do you make that out, cos i am not seeing it.
Calhoun wrote: » Your right its not about the coach using foul language, its about the breach in child safety politics and bullying at a coaching level, it is also about the club on a whole circling the wagons and using boycott type tactics to keep the parents in line. The risk here from a societal perspective is simple, Ireland has a history of ignoring child welfare laws and putting people into positions where they are untouchable. The powers at be in the GAA HQ luckily seem to understand what is at stake here and are taking it seriously.
Hitman3000 wrote: » Classic whataboutery or deflection from the main topic, the behaviour of the club officials.
RebelButtMunch wrote: » Yes it's the parents fault that a grown man shouted at young kids.... sigh
PARlance wrote: » Wow. I love the internet.