Conservatory wrote: » You can join a political party. Nothing stopping you. Then spend ten or so years working locally in football teams and charities. Start working your way through other party members. Once you have the backing run for a top job. Then magically become a millionaire it’s not rocket science I’m still amazed how few of us do it.
Grayson wrote: I'd actually be interested in politics except the Indo would have an aneurism when they discovered how many drugs I did in my 20's. And it's just one stupid story after another. And some are very stupid
Grayson wrote: » I'd actually be interested in politics except the Indo would have an aneurism when they discovered how many drugs I did in my 20's. And it's just one stupid story after another. And some are very stupid I really enjoyed myself in my 20's.
JohnnyFlash wrote: » Many of them would be successful high achievers in their professional lives before politics.
mariaalice wrote: » I wonder if the trolling by the Independent and to a lesser extent other media has had its day, the vast majority of the population are too media savvy. .
Guy:Incognito wrote: » Maybe have a look at comment sections on social media...........
Deleted User wrote: » Any auld eejit with property in Dublin is a millionaire these days. The pity is that some of them think their prosperity is down to their own skill, rather than down to the fact that they bought a house they needed to live in in the 1980s and, as a result of a variety of external factors which they had nothing to do with, that has now quadrupled in value.
Wanderer78 wrote: » I'd say being a politician is a dreadful job
dulpit wrote: » This. Read the responses to literally any mundane comment a TD puts out on twitter.... TD: "Lovely day today, out walking the dog" Public on twitter: "Ya, but you suck at everything. Die." etc etc I mean, I went to Leo's twitter, he posted a photo from the Darkness into Light walk:https://twitter.com/campaignforleo/status/995200939870089216 Attached are a selection of the top replies..
murpho999 wrote: » Stupid article. I'd be almost half a millionaire if you were to look at where I live but it's mortgaged to the hilt. People really shouldn't be worried about these things, it achieves nothing but bitterness.
Deise Vu wrote: » From glancing at the article the vast majority of the wealth is the pension that they award themselves.Given how low annuity rates are these days and I think a TD only needs two terms to be 'entitled' to an income for life, I am surprised that the wealth figures aren't much higher. This is despite the fact that, realising the pensions we award ourselves in this country are not sustainable the Govt has already taken steps to limiting Public Service pensions (for new entrants of course) and private sector workers have to work until 68 now (which is a cut of about 20% based on average life expectancy). If nothing else the article highlights the hypocrisy of TDs in relation to the pension issue. Not that I expect people will care. When it comes to pensions people's eyes just glaze over. Happy days for the TDs, this won't even be a 24 hour wonder.
Ubbquittious wrote: » I wonder is it feasible to be a politician and not go on twitter?
Pugzilla wrote: » Maybe you should move to North Korea if you want everyone to be paid the same.
Hitman3000 wrote: » Most of those mentioned are millionaires solely by virtue of the non funded pension they will receive.
mariaalice wrote: » Its divided between those with a mental health issue. Believers in conspiracy theories. General contrarians and cranks. And a certain amount of sour nasty individuals. It's not representative of the general population
dulpit wrote: » The pension issue is a non-issue though. Think about it - if you decided to run for Dáil, were elected for 2 terms and then walked away or lost seat. You've theoretically lost 10 years of your main career, which could make it very hard to (a) get back into the career you had and (b) get back to decent earnings. We have 2 choices: Only have rich people run for Dáil Renumerate our politicians for the work they do, including pensions/etc.
SEPT 23 1989 wrote: » If we didnt pay them enough they could become corrupt accepting bribes etc
Deise Vu wrote: » Firstly, a huge chunk of our TDs are teachers on leave or self employed or professional people. I don't think the Healy-Raes will go hungry nor Alan Shatter, nor Michael McDowell etc etc. If you think 10 years in the corridors of power isn't something that can be leveraged into advancing your career, you mustn't read the papers. One question that has always bothered me about the Teacher TDs who selflessly keep themselves on the Dept of Education payroll in order to preserves teacher levels at their old school (Michéal Martin's explanation) is, do they claim a teachers pension when they retire too? There was zero chance four or five years ago that Enda and Michéal were ever going to go back teaching, yet they were still on leave of absence from their schools. I wonder why?
Deise Vu wrote: » Firstly, a huge chunk of our TDs are teachers on leave or self employed or professional people. I don't think the Healy-Raes will go hungry nor Alan Shatter, nor Michael McDowell etc etc. If you think 10 years in the corridors of power isn't something that can be leveraged into advancing your career, you mustn't read the papers. One question that has always bothered me about the Teacher TDs who selflessly keep themselves on the Dept of Education payroll in order to preserves teacher levels at their old school (Mich Martin's explanation) is, do they claim a teachers pension when they retire too? There was zero chance four or five years ago that Enda and Mich were ever going to go back teaching, yet they were still on leave of absence from their schools. I wonder why?
mariaalice wrote: » https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2016/meet-your-52-new-tds-lawyers-teachers-a-techno-dj-34527278.html The facts Michael Mc Dowell has not been in politics for years same with Alan Shatter.
Deleted User wrote: » What's that saying about the different types of folk? One talks about people, another talks about events, and another talks about ideas. I think it's something like that. Anyways, you're replying to the third group from your position in the first group, and you shouldn't feel proud of that.
Deise Vu wrote: » Que?
Deleted User wrote: » At the bottom, you have those who can only talk about people. Above than that are the people who can talk about events and their impact. And then proper conversation lies in ideas. We were talking about the idea that a pension is important because a politician gets removed from the workforce for so long. Without it, only the rich can be a politician. The other guy comes back and attempts to refute an idea that has gone back centuries by throwing out a few random names, like it's remotely relevant in the big picture.
Deise Vu wrote: » Sorry but that is utter bollox. What about people who don't have a pension already? (About 50% of the population I think). Why are the people who are responsible for the pension rules in the country setting themselves up for better pensions than everyone else? How are they allowed to make decisions that decimate other people's pensions while exempting themselves. Do you really think that is healthy? If you think Mick & Alan are bad examples can you list a few TDs who have hit hard times financially as a result of their selflessly attending the occasional Dáil Eireann sitting for which they receive tax free travel expenses that are specifically excluded for everyone else in the tax code that these people oversee?
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