Hunky Monster wrote: » Yep born a woman and competes as a man. Absolutely terrible "interview", didn't question any of his beliefs. Says that gender is on a spectrum but references science when talking about Caster Semenya. Black lives matter, gender spectrum, male privellage. Jesus Christ at least question something, all agreement all the time with these interviews. Ask a tough question at least. Trumps attitude? He was blocking trans people serving in th military. You'd swear he hates everyone from the LGBT community going by that interview.
Hunky Monster wrote: » Yep born a woman and competes as a man. Absolutely terrible "interview", didn't question any of his beliefs. Says that gender is on a spectrum but references science when talking about Caster Semenya. Black lives matter, gender spectrum, male privellage. Jesus Christ at least question something, all agreement all the time with these interviews. Ask a tough question at least.
Hunky Monster wrote: » Trumps attitude? He was blocking trans people serving in th military. You'd swear he hates everyone from the LGBT community going by that interview.
Hunky Monster wrote: » Black lives matter, gender spectrum, male privellage. Jesus Christ at least question something, all agreement all the time with these interviews. Ask a tough question at least. Trumps attitude? He was blocking trans people serving in th military. You'd swear he hates everyone from the LGBT community going by that interview.
Cienciano wrote: » Trump doing that was pathetic in fairness.
riemann wrote: » Why? Anyone with mental health issues should not be signing up to join armed forces, they might be better served focusing on themselves.
dulpit wrote: » Being transgender is a mental health issue?
A 2011 study at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden produced the most illuminating results yet regarding the transgendered [sic], evidence that should give advocates pause. The long-term study—up to 30 years—followed 324 people who had sex-reassignment surgery. The study revealed that beginning about 10 years after having the surgery, the transgendered [sic] began to experience increasing mental difficulties. Most shockingly, their suicide mortality rose almost 20-fold above the comparable nontransgender population. This disturbing result has as yet no explanation but probably reflects the growing sense of isolation reported by the aging transgendered [sic] after surgery. The high suicide rate certainly challenges the surgery prescription.
Hunky Monster wrote: » I didn't want to get into this but look at the stats for transgender people. A 2012 survey of Ireland and the UK says: 44% of trans respondents said they self-harmed. 38% reported self-harming in the past and 6% currently self-harm. 78% of trans respondents said they had thought about ending their life. 63% of respondents said they thought about attempting suicide in the last year. 40% of respondents said they had attempted suicide in their life. 12% attempted once, 22% attempted 2-5 times and 6% attempted suicide more than 5 times. Bottom line is that it's clearly a mental issue. It's up there with this nonsence about gender being on a spectrum when ALL science proves that there are two genders. Peoples feelings do not trump scientific facts no matter how upset that makes them feel. Anyway, that aside they really picked a pathetic example for this interview, why didn't they interview a man competing in womens sports for example? Some men are absolutely destroying womens sports, a simple google of this will tell you just how many and the variety of sports. Taking pills and having an operation doesn't make you a man or a woman, mens hands are bigger, men have more muscle density, men have more testosterone and to be competing alongside women benefits who exactly? It doesn't benefit men, it doesn't benefit women, it benefits the mentally ill person who everyone else is bending over backwards for to change the rules to include them.
dulpit wrote: » Jeez, I wonder why transgender people have such high rates of depression/etc when society is so welcoming for them... :rolleyes:
Hunky Monster wrote: » Yeah it's all my fault for posting facts from scientific studies on the internet.
bren2001 wrote: » Your facts don't back up your point in the slightest. You're assuming that trans people are suicidal/depressed owing to the fact that they are Trans, which would be an unfair and incorrect assumption. Without reading the study, its more than likely that trans people in Ireland and Britain feel this way owing to the lack of acceptance in society. In essence, people saying they have a mental health issue because they feel this way. It's absolutely nothing to do with what gender they feel they are. If you search back far enough you'll find plenty of studies showing similar studies of gay people but today nobody is suggesting they have mental health issues. They felt this way for the same reason some trans people currently feel this way i.e. due to the sociological pressures exerted by society and the climate we live in.
Hunky Monster wrote: » Born a man, compete with men, born a woman compete with women.
deise_boi wrote: » And supposing you're born with both sex organs?
Kingp35 wrote: » Do it based it on testosterone levels. Above a certain limit and you compete with men, below and you compete with women. There has to be a divide, allowing a free for all is absolute madness and will ruin womens sport. They struggle for recognition as it is.
Kingp35 wrote: » deise_boi wrote: » And supposing you're born with both sex organs? Do it based it on testosterone levels. Above a certain limit and you compete with men, below and you compete with women. There has to be a divide, allowing a free for all is absolute madness and will ruin womens sport. They struggle for recognition as it is.
Hunky Monster wrote: » How often does that happen? I mean really what sort of point is that?
Hunky Monster wrote: » It's not my opinion. They're scientific studies. Its absolutely none of my business what trans people do nor do I care either way, it doesn't affect me at all. The studies show the massive mental health issue, im not saying trans people don't have a hard go at life, for sure they do but people in the western world are generally very accepting and these people can find their own friends and own communities to socialise in just like everyone else. The stats are the stats. When it comes to acceptance in sports well I'm absolutely against it. There's a good reason 99% of sports are broken into two categories, men and women, when you start muddying the waters with surgery and drugs and the CLEAR advantage men have over women in terms of body type, muscle mass, bigger hands, arms, legs etc. Born a man, compete with men, born a woman compete with women.
threein99 wrote: » Eamonn MaGee sounds like a lovely man
Cienciano wrote: » Just to put to bed the transgender mental health issues here
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