cnocbui wrote: » I do, and so too should any Irish taxpayer with half their brain functioning. Expanding the grid and possibly copping a €600 M fine for doing so isn't a small issue.
Ubbquittious wrote: » You'll see the megacorps playing the Jobs card and banging on about economic benefits for the locals but once they've bypassed the planning stage the robots will be ready to roll in and you'll be reading about the redun-dun-dun-de-dun-dun-cies on thejournal.
Billy86 wrote: » You should bring this up to the people who have posted in this thread who work in data centres. Though it might not be worth your while as probably robots anyway.
salmocab wrote: » Robots doing what exactly? There is no assembly happening in there
jimgoose wrote: » The grid has expanded considerably already you know, since the time when everyone had only one incandescent bulb in De Good Room and no telly. :pac:
Boggles wrote: » There would be a certain amount of "assembly". Swapping out nodes and arrays for instance.
runawaybishop wrote: » Who gives a **** how much power it uses? They will be paying for the expansion of our grid.
Venom wrote: » Stop talking rubbish. Those mega servers come pre-built and pre-configured and would pretty much just be plugged into the existing network by a lowly human.
Venom wrote: » Bet its Russian robots too!!!
runawaybishop wrote: » Are robots going to build it too? Should we block all corporations in the country because of backwards retards?
One More Toy wrote: » Neoliberal bullshít. We need to stop sucking the teat of these multinationals that pay little or no tax in ireland. When did we become such a country sucking the nipples of MNCs? Fair play to the objectors I say
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » I'm looking at this as a Dub but for Athenry this must be devastating. The locals have every right to be furious with what was interference from primarily people that live no where near. Real reform needed NOW.
Karen Late Rubber-stamp wrote: » This is all pure speculation with no foundation. Your bias is blinding you. This is a very bad day for Ireland and Co. Galway in particular, that is fact.
One More Toy wrote: » Neoliberal bullsh We need to stop sucking the teat of these multinationals that pay little or no tax in ireland. When did we become such a country sucking the nipples of MNCs? Fair play to the objectors I say
knipex wrote: » Very very very quick to throw insults but very very very slow to even look at the arguments presented. There is a significant long term impact to the state as a result of building data centers so to the infrastructure, power demand, emissions etc. There is a short term benefit during construction and what appears to be a relatively small long term benefit.. Its not a win win win for the state of the people in the area, be it in Dublin or Athenry,. However this is or should be more an issue of government and IDA policy rather than Planning permission. and a policy either way (for or against data centers) should have been enough to prevent much of the crap that happened in Athenry..
Yillan wrote: » OSI wrote: » Not to mention Apple is committed to making all of it's facilities run on 100% renewable energy so they would have followed up the development with investment in renewable energy resources in Ireland. Would they? Where does it say that? According to anything I read, Apple were going to use renewable energy, but had made no commitment to creating any renewable energy, which would just mean paying Airtricity etc for their wind farm electricity, and then the rest of us are back on the fossil fuels. I think I read that the servers would add an extra 4% energy burden to Ireland, which would put strain on a supply which is just barely ticking along as it is. And the idea of 150 permanent jobs is apparently a bit of a fantasy designed to dress up the project so people can argue it would be good for the local economy. So you have a paltry number of additional jobs, a huge drain on the energy supply for the country and Apple building a huge centre in the middle of nowhere but god help anyone that even suggests it mightn't be as good as it is presented to be. A new McDonalds opening would be better for the local and national economy than this 500 million euro project.
OSI wrote: » Not to mention Apple is committed to making all of it's facilities run on 100% renewable energy so they would have followed up the development with investment in renewable energy resources in Ireland.
sparksfly wrote: » A Mc Donalds is a drain on the national economy. Revenue is generated in Ireland and net is exported, the balance is negetive. The revenue from the Data centre is mostly generated outside Ireland and the net balance is positive.
Ronaldinho wrote: » Do you have a source confirming this? How much did they agree to pay?
runawaybishop wrote: » Do you think they will get electricity for free?
Ronaldinho wrote: » The infrastructure.. You said they would pay for the expansion of the grid. Do you have a source confirming same, and if so, how much were they set to pay?
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