cnocbui wrote: » While I think this country's planning system is beyond dysfunctional and needs to be scrapped, and this just highlights that, Apple themselves need to shoulder some of the blame here. Their idea of dropping this in a rural area and not somewhere already zoned for such developments was typically high-handed of them. Had they chosen an existing technology park or a more urban commercially zoned plot, it would be built by now.
weldoninhio wrote: » So on the one hand you have people saying that the growth of Dublin is unsustainable, companies should be given incentives to move down the country to relieve rent pressures, amongst other things. But on the other hand, when a company tries this, you have people saying companies should be using more urban commercial plots. No wonder the country is a mess. What do we want? A more even distribution of the workforce around the country to relieve the stresses of daily living for everyone. Where do we want it? Not in my backyard!!!
inter arma wrote: » An unfortunate turn of events. That data centre would have brought jobs, directly and indirectly to Athenry in a variety of different social and economic areas. I can't understand why the objectors mounted such a big campaign- its not as if it were an incinerator or some factory that would be dumping huge pollutants into the atmosphere. Is it any wonder why companies prefer to locate to the east and south?
cnocbui wrote: » Duh! There is nothing local to the intended site that could use the heat.
ABSTRACT: A process for heat recovery from a thermal plant and transportation over a large distance is presented and discussed. Heat is carried in the vapour phase of a working fluid at the ambient temperature without thermal losses. The performance of the process compares favourably, even for distances of about 100 km, with the local use of a heat pump at the site where the thermal energy is to be consumed. Water can be used as a suitable alternative to freons in such a process of heat transportation.
cnocbui wrote: » No I don't and I agree with you, but Apple ignored the realpolitik at their cost. Had they chosen somewhere more appropriate it would likely be built by now.
weldoninhio wrote: » One of them had bought land in Wicklow that he thought would be a "better fit" for Apple.
cnocbui wrote: If this centre had been developed to it's full capacity, it would have consumed as much power as the whole of Dublin. .
OSI wrote: » Not to mention Apple is committed to making all of it's facilities run on 100% renewable energy so they would have followed up the development with investment in renewable energy resources in Ireland.
Karen Late Rubber-stamp wrote: » This is the perfect type of site for a data centre. A large area of waste groundnut good for nothing else and away from an urban centre. You can't built a massive data centre in an industrial estate (maybe you don't understanf the scale) or close to a city. They are massive for a start and need a large amount of ground, it doesn't need to be close to other business or amenities and also will likely need more space around it for expansion not to be suddenly surrounded by another building in the way. It's also creating jobs in a rural area away from busy traffic etc where those working there would have a trouble free commute to work and access to much cheaper rural housing in a time where cities are over crowded and rents are rocketing that is a big advantage. The issue here was our idiotic planning system, the 3 or 4 people objecting to this should have had one attempt at objecting, when their stupid reasons were heard and dismissed that should be it. No appeals, no going to higher courts they should be told to shut up and go home. It sickens me to the core that they won and co.galway had lost a great investment from the worlds top company. Less jobs, local business will not get a big boost they would have, it would promote co. Galway on the world stage and attract more investment etc etc.
[Deleted User] wrote: » I love the way the only posters providing evidence/links are the ones saying Apple wouldn't need that much electricity. Nothing from the posters who say otherwise. Cough up, people. Give us some evidence to show such a proposed site would require "as much electricity as Dublin" or whatever the objection actually is.
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » The government really face an uphill battle with idiots in this country.
Deleted User wrote: » Cough up, people. Give us some evidence to show such a proposed site would require "as much electricity as Dublin" or whatever the objection actually is.
Doctors room ghost wrote: » Wouldn’t bother worrying about it lad.the good ship apple has sailed now and all that’s left at the dock is a bunch of paddywhackers scratching themselves staring into a swamp.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Lad? I'm likely older than you are. :rolleyes:
Yillan wrote: » Would they? Where does it say that? According to anything I read, Apple were going to use renewable energy, but had made no commitment to creating any renewable energy, which would just mean paying Airtricity etc for their wind farm electricity, and then the rest of us are back on the fossil fuels.
Doctors room ghost wrote: » Age has nothing to do with gender lad
raspberrypi67 wrote: » All I can say its that's a big loss of jobs , and all they do is winge and whine about the lack of jobs there, etc. they sure cut their nose off to spite their face...well, serves them right...idiots....Dutch will be thanking us....
[Deleted User] wrote: » Sigh. Another one of those. Ok.
Deleted User wrote: » I love the way the only posters providing evidence/links are the ones saying Apple wouldn't need that much electricity. Nothing from the posters who say otherwise. Cough up, people. Give us some evidence to show such a proposed site would require "as much electricity as Dublin" or whatever the objection actually is.
Mr Mulcahy said a range of experts would address the concerns. He said while the company was committed to using renewable energy, it was not proposing any generating facilities on site but would be connected to the national grid. Read more: Apple faces new hearing on €850m Galway centre He said the development would not require increased generation capacity and the company would enter into a contract with a renewable energy supplier. Apple has claimed that it will run the centre on 100pc renewable energy. The 24,500 sq m centre in Athenry was granted planning permission by Galway County Council. It has since been appealed by eight parties. If given the go-ahead, the development will involve the construction of a data centre, an administration building and associated works and will employ 150 people. Read more: iPhone 7: Leaked photos reveal details of Apple's next handset Oisin Collins, representing a residents group, said Apple would be the largest private user of electricity in the State, if it were to expand its presence to the predicted level over the next 15 years.It would use 300MW of power, which is 8pc of the national capacity and more than the daily entire usage of Dublin city. He questioned whether the impact on the national grid had been fully assessed. Apple said there will be no increased risk of flooding as the project includes a comprehensive drainage network and soak away areas. The oral hearing is set to last for a number of days.
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