All in all wrote: » Hi all, some great reading in the threads here. I am considering making the change to fully electric or phev. My work commute is 50 km each way and have access to a charger in public car park at work, however one day each week I travel approx 270-300 km. I haven’t researched charging spots on this route. The niro phev has caught my eye and I was looking at 6-12 month old ones in the U.K. for £21-22k, from the best I can look up online there would be relief of €2250 on the vrt? Does anyone know if this is correct, would I be eligible for any seai grants?.
quenching wrote: » I had the misfortune of visiting a Kia dealer at the weekend and asked about the Niro PHEV, the "salesman" was unsure of the price and was adamant that whatever grants or tax relief that applied depended on who buys the car and what they applied for and that it was nothing to do with him. Was he correct?
Shefwedfan wrote: » Tell him to go to kia.com for pricing The grants and tax relief I am not 100% about, I do think if bought as company car you lose some of those?
quenching wrote: » He was quite aware it would be a private purchase, and given his lack of interest and dismissive attitude I won't be going anywhere near that Kia dealer again. However, as fate would have it, it turns out that an acquaintance of mine is the MD of Kia Ireland, I didn't realise this until very recently as we only really overlap at social events but I might mention the dealer attitude when I see him next
Shefwedfan wrote: » While you are discussing that could you mention to him about a very lovely prospective buyer for the Niro EV It would go to a lovely home and polished every weekend :P If you haven't guess that home would be mine.... Also say if he wants I can write a sob story like the best of them on facebook if that will swing it my way Early release would be best
KCross wrote: » I think he was talking s*ite The grants are clearly detailed on the SEAI website for private and commercial buyershttps://www.seai.ie/grants/electric-vehicle-grants/grant-amounts/ In addition you have the the VRT exemption which for PHEV is €2500 and €5000 for BEV. And you have the €600 home charge grant. The dealer will take care of the grants associated with the car and usually the sticker price has the grants already deducted. You take care of the home charge grant. Clearly he hasn't ever sold an EV of any description.
vienne86 wrote: » All in All, that's very poor by the salesman you met. I have a Kia Carens and have found the dealer (Dublin based) excellent, before/during/after the sale. I am seriously considering the Niro Phev for my next car. I dropped in to a Kia dealer in Wexford a couple of months ago, and it was clear that the salesman I met could not understand anyone being interested in a hybrid let alone a PHEV.....I suspect it is a urban/rural thing......people living in rural areas would want to stick with diesel.
Shefwedfan wrote: » Selling a Carens in bread & butter to these guys.....it has a nice diesel engine they all know and love I bet if you walked into the same Dublin based dealer and asked about a PHEV you would get a confused look.....anyone bar Toyota dealers know about hybrid.....Nissan dealers at least have some idea with the Leaf..... It is a joke that so few dealers both to train themselves up on new models...I work in a business and we have new products are released every few months....if you dont know the new products you will be fired....car dealers seem to allowed idiots to work for them
slicedpanman wrote: » I test drive one yesterday... Very nice Drives like an electric, pick up is as good as the leaf (we've a 24kW), was worried it wasn't really going to deliver the same performance and have some level of ICE lag. Also the transitions from EV to hybrid and back, using the mode button, was very smooth Quite impressed really. Very good cabin space and decent boot space. The full EV will be a cracking car... Not sure my 13 year old Prius will last that long though. Going to try a test drive in an Outlander tomorrow.
slicedpanman wrote: » 32k They offered me 3k for my 05 Prius (pretty generous) Still a lot of money though
Shefwedfan wrote: » slicedpanman wrote: » 32k They offered me 3k for my 05 Prius (pretty generous) Still a lot of money though Its a serious amount of car for that money!!! The Outlander PHEV is 40k or something new
slicedpanman wrote: » I'd only be looking at a 2015/16 Outlander... 30k is a stretch for me on the new niro, let alone the 40-50k on a new Outlander
KCross wrote: » I've been derailing the Niro EV thread..... anyone here bought a Niro PHEV? What type of driving are you doing in it each day? Speed, types of roads (L, N or M)? What mpg or l/100km are you averaging? What distance are you getting in EV only mode? Apparently the engine has to run to heat the cabin. Does the engine run a lot as a result? Any issues with the car in general? Is there anything you would change about it? thanks
Shefwedfan wrote: » In regards to the engine running to heat the cabin, Outlander has the same issue. The way around it on Outlander is to use the timer to heat before you get in. Does the Niro have similar? Also a lot of advertisement around a little device you can plug into Outlander to let you run heating off battery..... More of an FYI
KCross wrote: » thanks I've a question out on SpeakEV to clarify as well as I dont know if it allows timed pre-heating. I'm also thinking that you dont have to turn on the heater at all if it has heated steering wheel and heated seats(which I believe it has). e.g. In the Leaf I rarely turn on the heater, just the heated seats and steering wheel and that does me fine. So, it might be less of a problem than people think.
Springwell wrote: » No cabin pre heat but good heated seats and heated steering wheel. Bought in August, done 5,200km on four tanks of fuel (averaging €50 a fill) with 500km of fuel left in it currently, by the end of a tank average is usually 40 km/l or 110mpg roughly. On motorway at 125ish mpg is about 70 using the engine. Get 55-58km from the battery now, not sure how winter will affect that as winter vs summer range in my Zoe is quite different. Drive 40km each way commuting with charging both ends so electric only. Mixture of L and N roads, some sitting in traffic in Dublin and tackling a good stretch of Wicklow mountain. Other driving is weekend stuff and several long runs to Galway, Roscommon, North Antrim coast etc. Car has been offroading (just in fields a bit) no bother. No issues so far, car is comfortable, nice to drive and cheap to run. People are cagey about the boot space but I've fitted dog guard and divider and get four spaniels in easily. Fitted a mattress in at Ikea without removing any of that, just dropped the passenger side rear seat. It fitted the bill for us when another BEV wouldn't and we got a good deal with trade-in of a diesel Peugeot.
