RobertKK wrote: » There are a lot of people who object to everything Trump does. Both men were involved in name calling. Yet they will now meet at some point. I didn’t object as it is better than some former presidents like Bush, Obama etc who didn’t name call but did start new wars. At least these guys are talking.
Wanderer78 wrote: » 'name calling', kinna disturbing from world leaders though?
RobertKK wrote: » Nah, one man was firing off lots of rockets and making threats to the US. Little rocket man wasn’t a big deal, neither was calling Trump a dotard. It did raise tensions but helped lead to where we are now. So one can say it was the right approach in hindsight. South Korea got worried and stepped up, North Korea got worried and next thing the North Koreans are going to the Olympics in the south, Kim Jong Un making foreign visits to meet allies and foes and meeting the US Secretary of State. People who hate Trump talked about how everything was going to fall to pieces under him. The US economy is doing fine, and a country that was formally at war with the US for near 7 decades is ending. I think some Trump haters are disappointed as their sky was going to fall arguments aren’t materialising. So far his two predecessors have each started more new wars than Trump has. At least one war is ending during the Trump presidency and I don’t think anyone predicted it would be the Korean War.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Yeah, no. Tell me, how are the NAFTA talks going? The Iran Nuclear Agreement - done and dusted? How is engagement with the Paris Climate Change Agreement going - surely The Donald has joined up now? How is he getting on in Syria - more or less drone attacks since he took over? How is he doing in the Palestinian peace process - all good in the hood? The TTIP - he's probably sorted that out?
Wanderer78 wrote: » but the behavior of both leaders is acceptable to resolve potentially serious international issues? again, this is day 'one' of negotiations! the american economy isnt as good as you think it is, dont believe everything you hear or read in relation to it
Inquitus wrote: » Trump has done little or nothing to influence Kim, the main driver behind the volunteering to stop tests is that he has collapsed his test mountain and as such cannot do any more tests! That's more luck on Trump's side than judgement http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2143171/north-koreas-nuclear-test-site-has-collapsed-and-may-be-why-kim-jong-unhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/26/north-korea-nuclear-test-site-collapse-may-be-out-of-action-china
RobertKK wrote: » Yes it collapsed but you don’t think China stopping 90% of exports into North Korea which the US pushed for isn’t having an effect?
Inquitus wrote: » Well Kim hasn't given anything up, he has volunteered not to test when he is in fact incapable of testing for the foreseeable future, its being touted by Trump as a huge success, but in reality its just the status quo being maintained.
RobertKK wrote: » ly Syria, he should follow his instinct and get out rather than listening to warmongers whonwant more death there.
jobbridge4life wrote: » Three quarters of unintended civilian deaths in Syria occured under Trump's presidency.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/donald-trump-us-civilian-deaths-iraq-syria-isis-coalition-bombing-a8180331.html Civilian deaths in the Middle East related to US strikes, have increased massively under Trump.https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/middle-east-civilian-deaths-have-soared-under-trump-and-the-media-mostly-shrug/2018/03/16/fc344968-2932-11e8-874b-d517e912f125_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7c780b8877bc ... I'm old enough to remember when you said you'd renounce Trump when he continued to bring death to the Middle East... and yet...
RobertKK wrote: » I don’t agree with the excessive use of drone strokes. But that cat had left the bad a long time ago, and Trump placed more of the responsibility for drone strikes with the CIA/military commanders.https://www.google.com/search?q=trump%20hands%20drobe%20control%20to%20military I don’t think that is right but Trump isn’t taking such a direct approach as Obama did. Obama had his weekly kill list which he looked at and authorised, Trump has left it to the CIA.
RobertKK wrote: » Ignore US sanctions which the US pushed for and got in the UN.
Mr.Micro wrote: » Trump can return now to the topic of Iran, now that Kim has put his plans on hold.
robinph wrote: » Do you mean the UN sanctions that were passed in 1993, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016 or 2017?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_North_Korea
jobbridge4life wrote: » In otherwords Robert you are ignoring your previous position, and the fact that deaths have massively increased under Trump, because... Obama.
RobertKK wrote: » Please read what I posted, I even provided a link as proof. I said it is still wrong as it was then. The link shows Trump gave the CIA the power to decide. I still think that is wrong. The fact is Trump is not as directly involved in the drone killings as Obama was.
Peregrinus wrote: » Well, Trump is responsible in that Kim has been demanding negotiations for years, and previous Presidents (and indeed Trump, until recently) have refused, on the basis that this would encourage and reward Kim for bullying his way to the negotiating table through pursuing his nuclear strategy. Trump, obviously, has had second thoughts about this strategy, and has reversed course by agreeing to the negotiations which Kim has long demanded. Describing this as "bringing Kim to the negotiating table" looks a bit disingenuous, though; if anything, it is Kim who has brought Trump to the negotiating table. Will Trump's change of tack bear good results? That remains to be seen. It's a bit soon to be thinking of Nobel prizes, IMO.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » So The Donald is involved in all the good stuff but not the bad? You sure about that?
Pepefrogok wrote: » Did anyone see the Owen Jones ranting on CNN about how trump had nothing to do with this the the next interview this happens... CNN) — South Korea's foreign minister has said she believes President Donald Trump is largely responsible for bringing North Korean leader Kim Jong-un to the negotiating table. Speaking ahead of Friday's historic summit between the leaders of North and South Korea, Kang Kyung-wha told CNN that the US President had played a significant role in bringing the two sides together. "Clearly, credit goes to President Trump," Kang told CNN's Christiane Amanpour in Seoul. "He's been determined to come to grips with this from day one."https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/04/26/world/korea-summit-kang-kyung-wha-amanpour-intl/index.html You could see the hurt in the studio, kinda like in this thread but I sense people starting to make their own opinions about trump instead of following the herd, getting harder to ignore the evidence of succes over the hyperbole and fake outrage.
BabyCheeses wrote: » Are you just going to repeat the same thing or will you ever explain it? You have the perfect chance to red pill the normies who are having the truth kept from them because of the deep state, MSM and (((globalists)))
Pepefrogok wrote: » What do you mean? That's the first time I posted that, oh hang on, did you think this was a repeat post of this .. South Korea's President Moon Jae-in says his US counterpart, Donald Trump, "deserves big credit" for talks between South and North Korea. The talks, held on Tuesday, were the first in two years and led to the announcement that North Korea would send a delegation to the Olympics in Pyeongchang later this year. Mr Moon said he wanted to show Mr Trump his gratitude. The US president tweeted a week ago that he had brought the talks about. He said he had done so by being "firm, strong and willing to commit our total 'might' against the North". Mr Moon told reporters on Wednesday: "I think President Trump deserves big credit for bringing about the inter-Korean talks. "It could be a resulting work of the US-led sanctions and pressure," he said. *NOTE* this..... CNN) — South Korea's foreign minister has said she believes President Donald Trump is largely responsible for bringing North Korean leader Kim Jong-un to the negotiating table. Speaking ahead of Friday's historic summit between the leaders of North and South Korea, Kang Kyung-wha told CNN that the US President had played a significant role in bringing the two sides together. "Clearly, credit goes to President Trump," Kang told CNN's Christiane Amanpour in Seoul. "He's been determined to come to grips with this from day one." Is a different Korean offical giving deserved high praise to trump. They can't all be wrong? But people in here know better lol
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