LirW wrote: » I think there was a post on here a year ago or so where a street of houses had a patch of land on the opposite side where everyone was hanging clothes and they realised that it didn't belong to anyone and since it was used for two or three decades by the residents they were able to claim squatter's rights. I understand that you can to that on every kind of property or land as long as you occupy it for over 12 years and no effort was made to remove you or an owner came forward. Then you can apply for adverse possession but you need somewhat of a proof for the whole thing. I'm not sure if you need to prove your efforts to legally acquire the property. Open to any corrections please!
Graces7 wrote: » Man is saying 6 months and someone else that there is a new law saying 12 weeks not years?
Graces7 wrote: » Would appreciate any gen please?. Can someone claim squatters rights on eg a council carpark or eg working pier? If this happens what next?
Cuddlesworth wrote: » Both examples are usually state owned land. After the travellers hit the land en mass beside Rathfarnham shopping center in the early 2000's and did crazy damage, the government enacted new laws. Anybody who set up shop like that now can be moved on by the gardai and fined and arrested for trespassing. As for adverse possession, its almost impossible.
LirW wrote: » Just a fun fact, my mother living in Spain told me that there is a huge Squatter problem there because squatter's rights kick in within the matter of days and you see that quite a bit actually where people just live in a few units of largely abandoned developments and urbanisations. Bigger problem is though when squatters go for holiday homes when people aren't there, that's a huge issue to get them out again.
Graces7 wrote: » What is puzzling me is that someone close to me who is very much on the ball on these things, told me way back that there was some new provision ie 12 weeks of residency? It was when things were going badly here and i was worrying lest the council refused to let me stay with no power. Oh and I had to have done some improvements to the property Maybe something different altogether?
Graces7 wrote: » This gets complicated?So you cannot just say to neighbours, I now have sqautters rights to this council owned carpark/pier? And tel folk there is nothing now anyone can do about it and I can do what i like here now? And they believe him!
Glass fused light wrote: » If the person is making physical changes you can report it by phone or in person to the council enfore enforcement in planning and also to whoever is responsible for the 2 areas and to the Gardai as suspected criminal damage. and explain if you believe that the action would endanger a member of the public. If you are in the location and approached by the individual neighbour to run you off, you could call the local Garda station and ask them to attend however unless you have a pressing need I would just leave and later make a complaint. If it's a claim of ownership it's best to write to the Council and describe location, the claims, who made the and any action taken by the claimant ask if its CC property and if it is, that they confirm or deny the claims.
The_Conductor wrote: » Grace- they are being delusional- 100% definitely contact your local representatives- and the local authority/council- stupidity like this has to be stopped.
L1011 wrote: » State body land has an even harder and realistically insurmountable barrier to claim adverse possession as far as I remember. 30 years and it resets to 0 even if someone comes to inspect it or something like that. I may be wrong, didn't go digging to check
Graces7 wrote: » Thank you. boards ie is amazing! I was intrigued re the 30 years and google found me this..https://www.irishexaminer.com/farming/news/what-are-squatters-rights-exactly-308255.html "ALL" I have to do now is motivate the right authorities.. there are aspects of this that are very worrying that I cannot post here.
ted1 wrote: » Yes, it was done in Dunsink Lanehttps://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/squatter-will-be-paid-1m-by-council-to-leave-12acre-site-26296663.html
Glass fused light wrote: » ted1 wrote: » Yes, it was done in Dunsink Lanehttps://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/squatter-will-be-paid-1m-by-council-to-leave-12acre-site-26296663.html That report says settlement, had the courts granted adverse possession needing the CPO or was it more economic to pay them to move? " Fingal said it would address the illegal occupation of its own lands, and that returning the lands to their legal use would be done in the most cost-effective way possible. "
ted1 wrote: » They secured squatters rights and the reached and agreement on the CPO
Cuddlesworth wrote: » They cost themselves and the public the money through incompetence and laziness.
Cuddlesworth wrote: » Yep, law was changed as I said in 2002 to 30 years for council owned land. But in fairness, if they lived there for 20 years and ran multiple businesses then its really on the council. They cost themselves and the public the money through incompetence and laziness.
PrettyBoy wrote: » Whoever told you it was 12 weeks isn't on the ball as you put it - they haven't got a clue.
Greaney wrote: » I hope what I say helps... This is with regard to private land, but not council. To squat land/property, you have to, without asking anyone permission, enter the property and occupy it. 'establish dominion' (plant spuds etc.), 'to the exclusion of all others' for a period of 12 years. Take in those phrases very carefully. It's not easy.
