jooksavage wrote: » So much wrong with this, I'm not sure why I'm picking you up on this point but sanctions DO hurt. It's the most effective weapon against Putin and the oligarchs and if you're not convinced I would suggest you read up on Bill Browder and the Magnitsky Act. The story of how it came about is fascinating and the consequences for Putins billionaire supporters have been dire. Reversing the Magnitsky Act is among Putins top priorities. BTW if sanctions were, as you say, ineffective, why didn't Trump just sign off on them, spare Nikki Haley all this embarrassment and not end up looking like a Russian stooge himself?
Beechwoodspark wrote: » Macron was put back in his box by trump yesterday in front of the media. I’d say he is seething. It reminded me of the time that creep sarkozy ruffled Enda’s hair.
Pelvis wrote: » What happened?
kilns wrote: » NK and Iranian sanctions are entirely different to what Russia are experiencing I am talking from first hand experience of an OFAC sanctioned Russian company and while sanctions make life difficult and you must be actively creative in how deals and transactions are executed, it has not caused any activities to be stopped nor the sale of goods to the US to be effected.
Leroy42 wrote: » kilns wrote: » NK and Iranian sanctions are entirely different to what Russia are experiencing I am talking from first hand experience of an OFAC sanctioned Russian company and while sanctions make life difficult and you must be actively creative in how deals and transactions are executed, it has not caused any activities to be stopped nor the sale of goods to the US to be effected. Right, so sanctions can work, just not the ones being used against Russia at the moment? So why did Trump not pile ahead with n more sanctions, as voted overwhelming by the house and senate? And why did he pull out of applying further sanctions, whilst letting his UN ambassador swing in the wind.
Beechwoodspark wrote: » Trump made a very public show of brushing invisible dandruff off Macron’s shoulder. “We have to make him perfect. He is perfect.” Meanwhile, Macron grinned and appeared somewhat lost for words as he subjected himself to this humiliation. The worlds media recording it all for posterity.
Mumha wrote: » Big News and shocking for the Republicans, last night. In Arizona House CD 8, Lesko the Republican won, BUT only by about 3%, after Trump had won the same district by 21% in 2016. In NY AD 10, a Democrat, Steve Stern has flipped a seat that has been Republican for the last 40 years, to win by 59-41%.Watch out for more Republican retirements in the coming weeks.
kilns wrote: » Exactly, sanctions are just window dressing with regard to the Russia situation. Currently as I said, life is made difficult but it doesnt stop any business being conducted
everlast75 wrote: » One can hope.... A quick question. Jackson has been warned by Senate members of both sides not to go ahead with his appearance before the Committee, based on information that they have regarding his part behaviour and lack of suitability to the position. The public humiliation of this guy would not happen, if it were not for Trump by-passing the normal protocol of checking into his history before putting forward his name for a position. Why is that Trump is for "extreme vetting" of anyone coming into the Country from a muslim country, and yet is the polar opposite for someone who would have control of a massive budget and overseeing approx 350,000 staff?
Mumha wrote: » Absolutely, and indeed a lot of the impetus for helping Trump,was to get those sanctions overturned. The bigger issue for Ireland, is why won't the Irish Government pass a Magnitsky Act here ? Bill Browder tried in 2013, but he was shut out. He has stated that he is more than willing to assist the Government, should they get off their arse to do so, in the future. Morally we should not be standing idly by while Putin and his gang use Ireland as a staging post for laundering money out of Russia.
Doltanian wrote: » I thought Trump really made Macron look like such a fool yesterday, the body language and what was so telling was Trump with Melanie who looked so radiant and youthful and Macron with his wife who is 25 years older than him whilst Melania is 23 years younger than the Donald. Trump portrays the strong leadership of the Tight and Macron as a weakling beta-cuck poster child leftist.
Doltanian wrote: I thought Trump really made Macron look like such a fool yesterday, the body language and what was so telling was Trump with Melanie who looked so radiant and youthful and Macron with his wife who is 25 years older than him whilst Melania is 23 years younger than the Donald. Trump portrays the strong leadership of the Tight and Macron as a weakling beta-cuck poster child leftist.
Doltanian wrote: » I thought Trump really made Macron look like such a fool yesterday, the body language and what was so telling was Trump with Melanie who looked so radiant and youthful and Macron with his wife who is 25 years older than him whilst Melania is 23 years younger than the Donald. Trump portrays the strong leadership of the Right and Macron as a weakling beta-cuck poster child leftist.
Leroy42 wrote: » kilns wrote: » Exactly, sanctions are just window dressing with regard to the Russia situation. Currently as I said, life is made difficult but it doesnt stop any business being conducted So you agree that Trump should take no kudos in relation to NK due to the tough sanctions? It is difficult to work out your position on this. Russian sanctions don't won't and can't work, yet all other sanctions are working? On what basis are you making such a claim? International sanctions are used worldwide and have been shown to have clear effects if done correctly. The only position I can work out is that you think the Russian sanctions aren't the right type of sanctions, which of course begs the question as to why Trump, seeing the sanctions work so well against NK, fails to undertake the correct sanctions against Russia
Wanderer78 wrote: » So having a young wife portrays a stronger leader? The world certainly is a strange place! Macron really isn't at all a lefty
kilns wrote: » I really hope Macron is playing the game with Trump, flattering him, making him feel like the most important man in the room etc all the while convincing him to keep with the Iran deal.
Captain Obvious wrote: » kilns wrote: » I really hope Macron is playing the game with Trump, flattering him, making him feel like the most important man in the room etc all the while convincing him to keep with the Iran deal. Trump has shown himself exceedingly easy to manipulate.
Doltanian wrote: » Trump with Melanie who looked so radiant and youthful
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